On Sluts

 

My post about the Secretly Pregnant Sluts show received this comment:

However, I don’t think you’re supposed to refer to a woman who married as a ‘slut’. Unless, of course, somebody other then the husband is the daddy.

Referring to married women who become preggers as ‘sluts’ is jr. high school-level rhetoric. She’s supposed to put out- remember?

This made me realize that I need to write up a page about the actual nature of sluts.  There’s two things that I have realized about sluts:

  1. Sluts aren’t limited to one night stand sluts.  Serial LTR sluts are sluts too.
  2. Once a slut, always a slut.

Usually, when we think of a “slut” we think of a woman who has a lot of one night stands.  This definition of “slut” is insufficient.  The preferred form of promiscuity for most women is serial monogamy or serial LTRs (long term relationships).  There is nothing “better” or “more moral” about being a serial LTR slut than a ONS slut.  (Dalrock has done a lot of work explaining how “no sex before monogamy”, the idea that serial LTR sluts use to justify their promiscuity, is not a moral statement.)  There is no real difference between the ONS slut and the serial LTR slut.  Often times whether a woman is a ONS slut or a serial LTR slut is dependent on whether a man she has banged wants to continue banging her.  In many cases that’s the difference so there is no real line between the ONS slut and the serial LTR slut.

Being a slut can’t be erased at all.  Lots of sluts think that either being married or “repenting” to Jesus will make it so they were never a slut.  This is not the case.  Marriage is no guarantee that a woman will stop being a slut.  The divorce rate and that fact that women file most divorces alone is proof of that.  ”Repenting” to Jesus also doesn’t make a difference.  Jesus forgives sins.  He does not erase them from history like some sort of cosmic magician.  For Jesus to forgive a person’s sins, a person must truly repent and not just be going to Church to find a chump to marry for the pretense of respectability.

Yes, more women are sluts than you realized.  And they don’t stop being sluts either.

  41 Responses to “On Sluts”

  1. I have a simple definition. If her number of partners outside of marriage is greater than zero, then she is a slut.

    Simple and supported by the evidence over at social pathologist that a woman with one non-marital partner is no better than a fifty/fifty shot at having a successful marriage.

    • Sadly my second wife was a slut big time, and a sociopath. First hus. divorced her for cruelty, second hus slit his throat over her. Please oh please be careful about women, they can kill you some of them, she died of cancer before she could destroy me. I got her money. Close honey, but no cigar.

      • I’m 62 and what life has taught me is many women are lying, devious, worthless gutter whores. I was one of those “nice guys” who was treated with contempt from women when I was young as I was not an “alpha male”. Later on I was conned into thinking that was over, that girls had “grown up”. No what I got was constant rejection until I married out of need, sadly, to a woman who was a controlling, violent “Feminist”
        (woman’s lib in those days) who liked to whore around on me and abuse me and just got tired of me sticking up for myself and divorced me. Wife #2 was even worse, this time it was a humanist sociopathic whore who excelled in the art. Had 2 husbands before me, first hus divorced her for cruelty, second one was driven to suicide (he slit his own throat). I only learned this after her death. She died of cancer before she could destroy me. However I did manage to get the cunt’s money away from her. Kudos to the MRA and MGTOW philosophy. Avoid long term relationships and marriage like the plauge.. Don’t let women tell YOU what YOU are worth.

  2. I don’t think of slut in black and white. I view it as a sliding scale.

    A woman that has only had sex with her husband is not a slut.
    A woman that has a few(low single digits) sexual partners and then marries is a little bit slutty.
    A woman with a bunch of ONS and a bunch of LTRs before marrying in her mid-30s is very slutty.

    If a man is the type that’s inclined to get married, he’s going to have to decide how much sluttiness is acceptable in a future wife. Most women these days are at least somewhat slutty….which is a good case for MGTOW.

    • Sliding scale in that it gets worse with each additional partner, I agree. However, with that first extra-marital parnter, she loses A TON of marital candidacy. It cannot be stressed enough that just one cock and she is pretty much ruined, no matter HOW much “well, everyone else does it”, the facts say she’s a very high chance of being no good.

      So I would say that a woman with one extra-marital partner is a slut.

      • True-dat. By any traditional morality sex with anyone other than your husband is slutty and most women today are sluts.

  3. A very good post PMAFT.. Can’t say I disagree with anything that you have said here.

  4. well thanks. You know I read Dalrock’s blogpost some time ago when it was first posted. And it really did register- and make an impression.

    I thought that one of the secretly pregnant women had simply married and then become preggers. But my mistake- reading the descriptions again, I see every single one of these women are conducting the serial LTR’s. And each has children with at least (2) different men (or a child with one man and pregnant by another man).

    Its shocking how these women are so pathetic and messed up- yet the TV producer holds them out as reality television stars. The lesson here is obviously not to marry one of these train wrecks.

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  8. Girls everywhere and all you emasculated “men” who are trying so hard to be politically correct at the expense of your masculinity, listen up.

    Men and women are equals. This does not mean that they are equal in every single thing they do. For example, men are, on average, physically stronger than women. It is much easier for a semi attractive (even a 6/10) woman to go out and get laid. The same cannot be said about men. Men have to work at it, have some skill (game) and thereby get a woman to sleep with them. It is a LOT harder for an equally attractive man to get women than it is the other way around. This is one of reasons behind why we, as a society, naturally celebrate men who are successful in bedding multiple women; while at the same time shame women who bed multiple men.

    Let us briefly visit the topic of virginity from both perspectives. Virginity in a man is not a desirable state or label when it comes to an attribute that the opposite sex wants. This is because he has obviously not been preselected by other women. However, female virginity is not looked at negatively in the least by men. If she looks decent, no man cares if the girl is a virgin or not. In fact, a female virgin is often wanted more.

    Now don’t get me wrong, men LOVE sluts. We will never turn down an opportunity to sleep with a good looking slut. Partly because she’s good in bed, partly because it’s sex. But any decently intelligent, self-respecting man will know that it is a terrible idea to emotionally involve himself (i.e. date) a slutty girl. That would be a very dumb move. Why would any man want to get emotionally involved with a girl who’s had 15+ sexual partners? We would just be setting ourselves up for failure. There are many nice worthy girls out there who don’t have daddy issues and haven’t slept with an entire fraternity house. But, by all means, fvck the brains out of sluts in the meanwhile.

    Most guys can detect when a girl is a slut by the first few dates and by what he hears about the girl from other people and from the girl herlself. We put this information together and figure out if she is dating material or not. If not, I like most guys, will still go in for the prize but have no intention of following through with dating the dirty little tart.

    To put it simply, a lock that can be opened by many keys is a useless lock and of little worth. But a key that can open many locks is a master key and is valuable.

  9. Women complain about how unfair it is that men are called studs when they sleep around, yet women get called sluts for the exact same behavior. It’s actually not a double standard though, because both scenarios are pretty different in terms of circumstances and consequences. I can think of at least four crucial differences:

    First, sleeping around is easier for women. Regardless of how you feel about promiscuity, we can all agree that a guy who manages to rack up a lot of sexual partners has to have some skills. It’s challenging for men to rack up partners, even for men with low standards. A man needs social intelligence, interpersonal skills, persistence, thick skin, and plain old dumb luck. For women, though, a vagina and a pulse is often enough. Whenever an accomplishment requires absolutely no challenge, no one respects it. It’s just viewed as a lack of self-discipline. People respect those who accomplish challenging feats, while they consider those who overindulge in easily obtained feats as weak, untrustworthy or flawed.

    Second, women have potential to do more harm by sleeping around than men do. Say a man sleeps around with a bunch of different women. He’s definitely doing harm to these women if he pretends to be monogamous while sleeping around. He may cause them emotional pain by his promiscuity. He may cause unwanted pregnancy. He may spread VD. When women sleep around, however, they can cause not only all these same ill effects but one additional crucial ill effect: the risk of unknown parentage.

    If one guy sleeps around with five women, each of whom is monogamous to him, and they all get pregnant, it’s a safe bet as to who the father is. If you reverse genders and have one woman who sleeps around with five men who are monogamous to her, and she gets pregnant, the father could be any of the five men. And if one of those men is tricked into raising a baby that isn’t his, he’s investing time, money, estate and property to provide for a child that isn’t carrying his DNA into the next generations, a costly mistake from an evolutionary standpoint.

    Our two basic primal drives are to survive and to reproduce, and promiscuous women traditionally make it hard for a man to know for sure whether he is truly reproducing or is secretly raising another man’s child. Men stand a lot more to lose from promiscuous women than the other way around. And it’s no picnic for the child to not know who his real father is either. And it’s a mess for the women carrying on the deception as well. Or just look at any random episode of the Maury show if you don’t believe me.

    Since the DNA test and the birth control pill didn’t exist until recently, there were no reliable ways to prevent pregnancy or prove parentage for most of human history. For this reason society developed a vested interest in preventing promiscuity among women, and society accomplished this by creating the slut stigma. And even though the creation of birth control and DNA tests have made this less of a risk than the past, longstanding traditions and customs are not easy for society to break so the slut stigma remains.

    Third, men have evolutionary reasons to be programmed to sleep around more. A lot of women roll their eyes when they hear that men are “hard-wired” to sleep around. But from an evolutionary standpoint, it makes total sense. If the two primal drives of humans are to survive and to reproduce, nothing leads to maximum reproduction like one man sleeping with multiple women. If one women sleeps with many men in a nine month period, she can only get pregnant just once. Nine months of rampant promiscuity would give the same result as nine months of highly sexed monogamy: one pregnancy. Now if one man sleeps with many women during a nine month period, you can get many pregnancies during that period. The more women he sleeps with, the more possible pregnancies.

    So from an evolutionary standpoint, there are concrete advantages to men being promiscuous compared to women being promiscuous. This doesn’t mean that women have evolved to be strictly monogamous. Women have evolved to be somewhat promiscuous too, something men badly underestimate. However they haven’t evolved to be as rampantly promiscuous as men.
    Fourth, promiscuity poses more risk to women than to men. A woman has more to lose from choosing bad sex partners than a man does. She’s the one who gets stuck with going through a pregnancy and taking care of a baby alone if she chooses a deadbeat. For this reason, promiscuous women throughout history have historically been viewed as being a vastly more irresponsible risk takers than promiscuous men, who rightly or wrongly could always run away from the consequences of unwanted pregnancies easier than women could.

    These four reasons explain why the longstanding tradition came about of men being rewarded for multiple partners while women get socially punished for similar promiscuity. Of course all this is gradually changing, but we’re up against millenia of evolutionary and cultural conditioning here, so don’t expect any dramatic overnight reversals.

    Understand that I’m just explaining why the double standard came into existence and not condoning or condemning it. This is not an attempt to pass judgment or be self-righteous in any way. It’s just an explanation of why the two conditions are treated differently.

  10. I love the distinction about “LTR sluts” – ha! I say this because LTR women often take on an attitude of superiority, as if their stance on relationships is somehow better than the “loose” women of legend and lore. But at least the latter type don’t pretend to be anything other than what they are, which I can respect. I think everyone needs to find a relationship style that works for her (or him) — what I can’t stand is the hypocrisy, the implied superiority, the war between adapting oneself to tired middle-class mores and rejecting them. We ALL need to learn more truthfully, more sincerely, more creatively, more humanely …

    • What I can’t stand is when people go on about sluts and use the nouns women, females, or girls too. It’s a known fact that men do the same crap. It’s bad enough they care about what other people (outside of cheating or home wrecking). To randomly go on about one sex doing it makes it worse.

  11. Gosh that recent research must really have come as something of a shock eh?

    Whatever ever will you guys do now to justify your hypocrisy?

  12. MRAs should stop once and for all going on about sluts. Our problem with women is not that many of them are sluts. In fact too few of them are. If most women were sluts the price of pussy would not be sky-high and men would not be controlled by pussy as they are now.

    • I agree…. they should stop going on about sluts, and stop acting like there aren’t plenty of men who hook up with people, cheat in relationships, et cetera.

      • Men don’t get away with it, and loose women pass the costs of their behavior onto the community. And it’s something around 20% of men vs nearly all women, because most men don’t even have that option.

  13. First of all, why is a post about sluts all about women? You realize that men do the same things? And no, I am not feminist for pointing that out, I am just unbiased and without double standards.

    Who CARES who is a slut? I don’t care what you do with your life, man or woman, and people who do are just people with victimless morals who have a stick stuck far up their butt. Some of them aren’t even church goers. Their reasons make even less sense. I guess something they have to go on is that it’s “degrading” and “hurts you.” Other forms of physical labor (the closest thing is massages because they are sometimes done for someone else’s physical pleasure rather than a real need for muscle relaxations) aren’t insulted and made taboo. Why aren’t massages degrading? What is so horrible about sex or enjoying sexual pleasure? You are only dirty if you feel dirty. The only thing that hurts and sucks is people telling you you are filthy. There is no need to make anyone feel that way. People who literally harm themselves get less crap than people who are “spiritually” or “somehow in someway that I can’t logically describe” hurting themselves. You clearly aren’t making judgment on them because you care about what they do with themselves, so why not leave it alone? They can degrade themselves if they want.

  14. Yeah the hook-up culture is awesome isn’t it? Everyone gets cheap, quick, all-consuming sex. This liberates men to get more experience, and it frees women from the “shackles” of male oppression…. and YET….everyone is still miserable. Broken hearts. The lies, the feeling of being used, the STD’s (nobody talks about that anymore). The constant looking for the “next” one, or the one that isn’t gonna hurt you, use you, lie to you….because “she has the power of choice” behind her.

    Any woman that gives it up for a guy after a few dates (hours in today’s world), I would never date. She views her body as something cheap, not special, and has very little self-respect for herself. She views sex as a way of “controlling” men. Power.

    We have a trillion books, blogs and webpages telling us all how to have “better” sex. We have public schools teaching little KIDS that this is perfectly natural and okay. We have media reinforcing all of these attitudes of the “hook-up” lifestyle.

    Yet…more people on Prozac, Zoloft, and other noxious chemicals prescribed by doctors to make everyone “feel” okay for their terrible choices, and to not face facts or even reality. We have more people in therapy than ever before. We have a boom of sexual psychotherapists today. There are dating coaches and gurus.

    Yet……way back when the sexual revolution started, we were all gonna be liberated when we tossed out outdated norms that had held culture together for thousands of years.

    Just a reminder many STD’s like warts never go away. That vaccine only covers a few strains of it, and the results are still mixed. Most STD’s now are showing resistance to drugs that worked not even twenty years ago.

    It’s not worth it men. Don’t believe that lie. Don’t succumb to “free” sex, cause it is not free…nothing with “feminists” is ever free.

  15. Penis. Worship it.

  16. slut (slt)
    n.
    1.
    a. A person, especially a woman, considered sexually promiscuous.
    b. A woman prostitute.
    2. A slovenly woman; a slattern.

    I would like to point out some flaws in your article.

    1. Females have sexual drive and sexual needs just as men do, its genetically programed into the human brain. while a man is addressed as a player, a woman has been given the term of ‘slut’.

    2. The hookup culture is mutually beneficial. Men complaining about sluts should reflect upon their own promiscuity before determining that this is wrong. If you have so many complaints about it, you may want to stop hooking up with random ‘sluts’.

    3. an ‘LTR slut’ is simply demeaning another natural process of women or men. Anyone who dates many people sequentially means that they are openminded in looking for a partner, and crave a fairly constant amount of love and support.

    these are three of the many flaws I found in your passage.
    I encourage you to explore both sides of the equation before coming to a conclusion next time.

  17. “Yeah the hook-up culture is awesome isn’t it? Everyone gets cheap, quick, all-consuming sex. This liberates men to get more experience, and it frees women from the “shackles” of male oppression…. and YET….everyone is still miserable. Broken hearts. The lies, the feeling of being used, the STD’s (nobody talks about that anymore). The constant looking for the “next” one, or the one that isn’t gonna hurt you, use you, lie to you….because “she has the power of choice” behind her.”

    Quoted for truth.

    Honestly, I do not see how sleeping around benefits either men or women. Both walk away from the deal with either broken hearts or sexual diseases or both; pick your poison. No one of either sex is immune to the drama and the disease of it all.

    And I want to expand on one point mentioned in Brody’s post, if I may…

    I see women complaining about it being a “double standard” almost every time the subject is mentioned. But the whole “double standard” exists because of women. One’s ‘sexual market value (SMV)’ is entirely dependent on what the other sex desires.

    We all know how women ruthlessly shame male virgins, even if the man is otherwise perfectly decent.

    So by rejecting virginity in males, females create a situation where men’s SMV can either go up or at least not be damaged if they sleep with people before marriage.

    What’s just as bad as women not realizing that they’ve created the situation, is that they continuously complain about the situation even though the way to actually fix it is right under their noses.

    If women actually valued chastity in men, then sleeping around would probably carry a bad stigma for both sexes, because then sleeping around would damage a man’s SMV in women’s eyes, not raise it. As long as women do not desire male virgins above male non-virgins, then the stigma of sleeping around will remain for only one sex: them.

    The word ‘slut’ doesn’t have nearly as much shaming power as it did before the “sexual revolution”, but women need to know that they created this imbalance in SMV in the first place.

    Women: if you truly want sleeping around to be viewed as bad for both sexes, then large numbers of you need to start changing your mate selection criteria by showing a genuine preference for virginal men, and rejecting promiscuous ones. That is the only way you can change it.
    Remember, one’s ‘sexual market value’ is almost entirely dependent upon what the opposite sex wants. If women continue to want men who sleep around, then sleeping around will boost men’s SMV. If women change their behavior and start wanting men who do not sleep around, then sleeping around will damage men’s SMV. So this is actually entirely within womens’ power to change.

    It is unlikely that women will step up and do this, since many of them can’t even curb their instincts to fall in love with hooligans and serial killers, but until they do, they’ll live with the consequences of their choice.

    To me, it is quite pathetic that women do nothing but sit around and complain about a phenomenon that THEY create, and that THEY have the power to change if they’d just use their brains for once.

    • @ Eric The only thing that’s pathetic is YOU. In what way doesn’t sleeping around benefit men and women ? In fact it’s the shitty solid relationship and “only true love” garbage that doesn’t benefit anyone at all. LOL you are fucking dumb and stupid :)
      From a biological point of view such dirt like marriage is simply unnatural. Only one sexual partner = less children

  18. this post is just a tiny fraction of why this blog is pathetic and sexist. woman ARE ALLOWED to have sex without having to put up with your stupid insults. its everyone’s own choice (no matter what gender they are) to have sex when they feel comfortable with it. for some people its before marriage and for others its during. we don’t live in the 18th century anymore, stop shaming girls for being able to make their own decisions.

  19. Your website is absolute bullshit. A man can have multiple partners and it be totally acceptable but not a woman? Seriously? Anyone that agrees with the views presented on this page is the real ” Weaker speices”. Whats wrong boys, is someone compinsating for something? Awww thats cute. You feel like you could make it in a world without women. Good luck reproducing, babes.

  20. hussy
    harlot
    scarlet minx
    loose
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    easy picks
    nympho
    trollop
    mademoiselle
    sleazy
    strumpet
    wanted
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    hoochy like
    jezebel
    fornicatress
    village bike
    doxy
    chippy
    cheap
    degenerate
    skanky
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    jay-trap hoe bag
    slut

    I have been called nearly everyone of these names. And yes, by most definitions, I am a slut. I have slept with more than 10 guys (and 3 girls) and I’m not even 20. I have taken three virginities, and taught men new things. But I have also been in long term relationships, I love people, and do not just sleep around because I can. I sleep around because I want to and I enjoy sex. I don’t use my vagina to control men, nor do I feel controlled by it.
    I will not hear the term “slut” used as an insult until you can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that being a slut is wrong. And not just “but I want a virgin on my wedding night”, because morals are not quantitative and thus are not a grounds for arguments. I am on the pill, and use condoms. After every new partner I am tested – I have not contracted a single STI or fallen pregnant.
    Furthermore, I have just completed my high school exams, and have been accepted into one of the best universities in the country, to do a double degree in Genetics and Arts, before moving into medicine. I volunteer regularly and give to charities and the homeless. I do not do this to make up for by sluttish ways, but because I am a good person.

  21. Many women nowadays are sleeping around much more than ever before.

  22. I’m 62 years old and I can tell you I have seen more lives destroyed by this stupid sexual revolution that started when I was in my teen years (1960′s).
    You gain no merit by whoring around, I don’t care if you are a man or a woman.
    I apaud those who consider chastity a virtue and you will see this merit as you go thru life’s journey. A woman or a man who stay’s chaste until marriage and practices momogamy have a much happier life and free of venerial disease and mental illness this stupid behavior creates.

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  24. Anti feminists are sluts. They cliam to not need feminism because they dont feel oppressed by men because they are putting out to get attention. I dont know of any single mom anti feminists, why? because they got fucked over, but women without kids or married sluts think that they are better then other sluts because they are jealous that they get a variety of guys as opposed to always pleasing thier same boring guy. I agree feminism can get a little extreme but anti feminism is a bunch of jealous man-attention-seeking sluts. Thats all there is to it

    • So all these dudes want to get laid throught high school then expect to get a girl that has only had sex with him and marry her?…..hmmmm, dudes are kinda screwn’ yourselves over on that philosophy. If dudes want a virgin they should stay a virgin. If a dude is going to be a slut, he is fair marriage game for other sluts.

  25. LOL this site sucks ass. Why shouldn’t men AND women be allowed to sleep around and reject solid relationship ? I thought nobody could be that fucking stupid.
    In fact it’s only married women who are worthless whores most of them are marrying the money of their “true love” :)
    What a bunch of subhumans you are, and actually you are the same kind of garbage dirt like the leftliberal feminists only on the other site of the same “coin”.
    Because the true enemy of the world is every kind of collectivist and universalist scum who wants to obtrude their laughable so-called “morals” on the rest of mankind.

    • How many warm dicks do you want inserted in your girls vagina before you bang her? 10-20?

      How much old ass cheese semen, sperm & spunk do you want encrusted in a chicks vagina before you fuck her?

      Let us know after you’ve finished vomiting at the thought of what a diseased whore’s vagina really looks like …

      Enjoy wiping off the last 10 guys she slept with, all that old ass cheese & semen off your dick, after you bang your diseased filth ridden encrusted whore …

      Let us know when your penis falls off from std’s gonorrhea & venereal disease …

      Enjoy vomiting up your lunch after inserting your dick in that diseased filth ridden hole …

      • pleasekillyourselves, btw I agree with you, its married women who’re worthless whores

        Prostituting themselves for a contract which gives them free house’s, cars, handbags & purses, for having a vagina & a hand job

        But …

        What’s referred to here is basic biology, not traditionalism

        Men have a right to disease free high quality women

        Not mentally damaged from years of failed relationships & being used as a cum dumpster

        Ask yourself, how mentally healthy is a 16 yr old used as a cum receptacle by hundreds of men?

        Also sluts sleep with an even smaller number of men, then regular normal women

  26. Jesus fucking Christ, you bunch of whiny spoilt little boys. I’ve never heard such hateful, bile filled empty rhetoric. Would love to know how many times you got rejected before coming to these views. Oh, and this ‘all women are whores’ and (what a lovely turn of phrase) ‘cum-dumpsters’ – does this include each of your mothers? I bet ‘mommy’ wouldn’t ever do anything so dirty?

    Grow up, the lot of you.

  27. What the hell is this all about? A woman went through pain giving birth to all you snotty little twisted boys. And there are more men that are sluts than there are women. I mean, look at the men who have multiple wives. You guys have one-sided views and are selfish and sexist. Grow up and get lives.

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