My last post has certainly stirred the pot. Bill Price over at The Spearhead provided a thoughtful response. Ankle-biter, Matt Forney, decided to call me a “perma-virgin” which anyone who reads this blog knows is absurd. Elsewhere I have been called a false flag operation:
PMAFT and TFH are a pair of lying ass-hats. Anybody who’s been in the MRM long enough is on to their lies.
Just like those knotheads RooshV and Krauser talk about sex because they never have really have any; PMAFT blabs on about false flags because he’s probably a false-flagger himself.
As for the Fifth Horseman he rides on—the guy’s an impotent retard looking for attention because he hasn’t done anything worthwhile since he wrote one article.
The only time I talk about false flags is when someone accuses me of being one or makes the stupid comment, the the MRM is filled with them. At least if you combine false flag and perma-virgin, maybe something starts to make sense. None of this is insane as what Nestorius said about Paul Elam:
It appears the Paul Elam is a Mason, and that he is getting paid for his website (as one commenter at Roosh’s blog said).
In fact, it is expected that the Masons will be leading an anti-feminist movement. Feminism is the thesis and men rights movement is the antithesis out of which they will create the synthesis.
One thing that is very suspicious about AVfM is that it is full of sophistry and nonsense. The titles attracts you and make you believe there is content while there is none.
On the other hand Jack Donovan is a Satanist (therefore a Mason) and a homosexual. He doesn’t hide the fact that he is a Satanist: jack-donovan.com/documents/081909_jackmalebranche_cos_resignation.html. Therefore, Donovan is clearly a dis-info agent. I never could understand how a homosexual is teaching men about manhood?!
One should always be careful that there will always be infiltration in every field, and the “manosphere” is a wide field which the Masons could use to indoctrinate clueless people out there.
I’m a false flag and a perma-virgin. Paul Elam is a Mason, and a member of the Illuminati, and on the government’s payroll. What brings up all of these ludicrous accusations? (They’re connected more deeply than just being absurd. There have been previous conspiracy theory based accusations that the MRM was recruiting sexless/virgin men, and that the “elite” is recruiting virgin men.) This isn’t due to a MRM vs. Game fight. There is something else going on. What is telling is how when Roosh originally said that the MRM is dead, men like John Rambo and Peter Nolan, neither of whom are gamers, jumped on the bandwagon. In fact this is part of a pattern we have seen elsewhere.
John Rambo spams the MRM in an attempt to make the MRM about his foreign women BS. He failed and now attacks the MRM.
Peter Nolan tried to turn the MRM into an arm of the Freeman on the land conspiracy theory. He failed and now attacks the MRM.
The Manhood 101 idiots tried to turn the MRM into peddlers of their BS. They failed and now attack the MRM. (They spend most of their time attacking Paul Elam since he did the work in fighting them off.)
Susan Walsh tried to turn the MRM (and the larger manosphere) into an arm of her Game 2.0/Man Up 2.0 scheme involving fake empowerment of men so that men would become chumps who would marry women after they were done riding the cock carousel. She failed and now attacks the MRM (and the larger manosphere in her case). In addition, she also called the idea that I am working for the elite (i.e. I’m a false flag) compelling.
White Nationalists tried to turn the MRM into a movement of racists and anti-semites. They failed and now attack the MRM and accuse the MRM of being run by the Jews.
Traditionalist conservatives tried to turn the MRM into an arm of traditionalism (along with all of the misandry associated with traditionalism). They failed and now attack the MRM.
You can see a pattern here. Some individual or group decides to come in and co-opt the MRM so that MRAs will become the personal army for their pet cause. They start by pretending to agree with the MRM about feminism. Eventually (or in many cases quickly) the MRM recognizes what they are and wants nothing to do with them. Then these individuals and groups turn on the MRM when they realize that their attempt at co-opting the MRM has failed. Paul Elam is often a target at this point since he runs the most visible MRM internet organization.
The same thing happened with Roosh, Matt Forney, etc. What they are is not gamers. Matt Forney says that they are “paleomasculinits” (so even he admits that they aren’t just gamers), but what they really are is just guys selling self-improvement and lifestyle BS. It doesn’t just involve game. It includes diet BS, exercise BS, etc. They came in to the MRM thinking that they could sell their self-improvement and lifestyle BS, but that didn’t work out. They turned on the MRM and now attack the MRM. They’re especially pissed because the existence of MRAs provides a competing option to the books they are selling. MRAs are unintentionally a threat to their income so we get a lot of crap from them about how the MRM is dead.
What is going on in all of these cases is not an MRM vs. game fight (although that does happen from time to time). It’s a fight between the MRM and every individual and group that wants to co-opt the MRM for its pet cause. The good news is that they have all failed. This is the real reason why there is so much venom against the MRM. In many ways, this shows that the MRM has been successful to a degree. We wouldn’t see so many attempts to co-opt the MRM if there wasn’t something worth taking over. This also means that we need to be vigilant against future attempts to co-opt the MRM since as the MRM grows, the number of individuals and groups who want to co-opt the MRM will only increase.