It’s important to do real things in the real world in support of mens rights. The Fifth Horseman is informing us of an opportunity to strike back against the false rape industry:
Kickstarter has a Brian Banks documentary (Brian Banks being the man falsely accused of rape, which cost him an NFL career and much more):
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1681576010/the-brian-banks-story?ref=home_popular
For those of you who don’t know how Kickstarter works, they seek crowdsourced donations to fund projects (a documentary, in this case). If the amount requested is not raised, all donations are returned.
About $9000 more is needed, and just 8 days remaining.
If you were wondering about new ways to have an impact, this is where you can. If MRAs can’t scrape up the mere $9000 needed to reach the funding threshold, that is a total failure of the MRM, and of the entire androsphere.
Five people have donated $1000 or more (and there is a good chance none of them are MRAs), but even donations of $5 or $10 can be accepted.
Come on! You can do it!
I fear that this is a time where the absence of Ferdinand Bardamu will be strongly felt…..
Go and donate. Do something for mens rights. Fight the false rape industry.
Just over $2,000 to go, as of this morning. Thanks to TFH for alerting us in time to help out.
Excellent! Thanks, PMAFT.
Only $1400 more to go as of this moment…… $7000 was raised in the last 36 hours…
This will do a great deal to expose the multi-layer evil that is enabled from the False Rape industry, and how the false accuser actually *profited* by getting $1.5M (?) in taxpayer money, yet will still face no formal charges.
$40,000 passed!! Success!!
$9000 raised in just 36 hours…..a job well done by all.
Excess money raised enables them to make the documentary even better, so I hope they can reach $50,000.
it’s good to know that the truth will be made available at last, but this wouldn’t even be necessary if women didn’t lie about rape.
Hisoj,
Well, yes. That is the whole point.
Of all the topics we discuss in the Androsphere, the three greatest injustices are :
1) False rape/DV laws, which entirely bypass the constitutional rights of just about every developed country..
2) Child custody laws..
3) No-fault alimony and asset division laws.
Everything else is merely an annoyance, or an avenue in which women expose their limitations once feminism baits them into doing so.
Also, when others say foreign women are ‘better’, all that really means is that in most other countries, women don’t have such laws available to them. As a result, their thought process doesn’t go down this dark path.
Foreign women are only ‘better’ insofar as they are not exposed to these perverse incentives…… in the same way, American women of 1950 were ‘better’ than the ones today for exactly the same reason.
[...] telling is the lack of a call to action to support Brian Banks in the so called manosphere. Only PMAFT and The Fifth Horseman have been talking about supporting this documentary. The conspiracy [...]
I pledged $10.
The Brian Banks documentary completed a successful fundraising campaign at Kickstarter, raising over $47,200, and exceeding the goal.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1681576010/the-brian-banks-story?ref=home_popular
They were at just $31,000, 8 days ago when I first mentioned it here. Great job to anyone who donated.
This will be a blow to the false rape industry. I hope they make the documentary that realizes this is not a one-off, but an epidemic that keeps claiming more and more young men.
I will say that many so-called MRAs did nothing, and did not even mention this project on their blogs, and this further proves that many of them don’t really care about activism of any sort.
I have been taking a hard look at the lack of activism among a lot of so called MRAs, and it paints a poor picture of them. I have seen some of them try and give excuses for their lack of activism such as “that’s what the government wants so that they can crackdown on us”. That’s just stupid because how is donating to a documentary and/or talking about it going to lead to a government crackdown? Beyond that, its just plain cowardice and laziness. That’s really what this is about. Fighting feminism takes work, and too many so called MRAs don’t want to get off their asses and do something.
The worst of all, is Rob Fedders.
He *opposes* all activism, and spends all of his time attacking both me (for the URLs @ Urinals campaign), and Paul Elam. He spends 100x more time attacking men who do activism, than actually battling any misandrists.
The reason he does this is that he is so accustomed to being a victim, that he doesn’t want anyone to rock the victim apple cart. This, of course, is insane, as men will never be a victim class, since most people (including many men) don’t care about male hardship.
What is sad is that at one time (like pre-2009), he was actually a valuable anti-misandry blogger.
Rob Fedders is definitely one of the worst, but he is by far not the only one. I have noticed that there is a great deal of overlap between being a conspiracy theorist and opposition to activism. (Rob Fedders is a good example of this.) This is not a coincidence.
Yeah. Although Rob Fedders is the one who diligently goes out of his way to attack both me and Paul Elam specifically. At the same time, he never actually battles a mangina..
He even sprung into attack mode when I posted an appeal for Brian Bank’s documentary on The Spearhead.
At the same time, if you fight back, he quickly gets into ‘please just leave me alone’ mode, only to attack again the next day.
Easily the biggest opponent of activism.
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The other problem is that not only is register-her.com no longer being updated (maybe Paul Elam got disenchanted from the lack of activism of others, and I don’t blame him). But even worse, very few people even seem to care that it is no longer adding more names…
That was the ONE site that was inflicting a direct cost onto wrongdoers, and if it kept growing, might have actually DETERRED new false accusations, castrations, etc.
The deterral value alone would be incalculable.
But very few even seem to care that it is no longer being updated…. the ONE site that was listing individual wrongdoers and could have been a real deterrent.
TFH – ”The other problem is that not only is register-her.com no longer being updated (maybe Paul Elam got disenchanted from the lack of activism of others, and I don’t blame him).”
That particular disenchantment is a two-way street.
At one point, they had a submissions page, where user could input the info on woman who we believed should be registered.
I submitted a number of entries, complete with documentation/links to their crimes, and even included (internet/public domain) pictures of them. These supposedly went off for some sort of review prior to be included in the registry.
Not only did none of my submissions (all for proven false rape accusers) ever get accepted/posted, I never even got any notification (email, or otherwise) with either status up-dates nor even any info as to any possible issues with my submissions.
I truly wished to participate, but, despite making earnest efforts, I was never allowed to do so. Thus, I too became disenchanted, and gave up on RegisterHer.com.
They made some early efforts, even getting Jessica Valenti into an uproar, them they seemed to degrade into registering more women for socio-political reasons, than for actual crimes and misdeeds against men.
I think they had a large part in driving the ultimate disinterest of men for the well-intentioned RegisterHer.com.
Does anyone know what really happened to Register Her? It can’t be as simple as Paul Elam and co getting disillusioned with a lack of action among MRAs because as we see here slwerner was submitting women who deserved to be listed with documentation.
I sent Paul Elam a note a while ago asking about the site, but didn’t hear back.
It has not been updated since October.
slwerner,
Some entries (like Wanetta Gibson, the Brian Banks accuser) show up as ‘already submitted’ in the submission form, but do not show up as pages on the website itself.
Some of your entries might fit into that category too, in that they qualify for registry, but the site is not updated (again, Wanetta Gibson being the most prominent example).
But I have no idea what their intentions are for the future of register-her.com.
I got here via the spearhead and have been reading Fedders latest personal attacks. He has been doing this for years. It would be tempting to think that Rob was motivated solely by psychological problems, but his long history of this behavior suggests something darker. It is possible he is a feminist plant.
Either way, I strongly feel that intelligent people should ignore, and not engage him. I do find it very curious to note that he makes the spearhead his home.
As for register her, I too got discouraged at the turn it took, singling out individuals of no particular consequence, while ignoring much bigger fish. I think that it’s sad to see such a great resource fall by the wayside, and hope that it is picked up again.
dkirsh1,
Thanks, my friend.
I agree, I should ignore him (which I do about 90% of the time). But getting attacked almost every day for every innocuous comment I make, sometimes becomes annoying. Plus, I admit it is fun to make him beg ‘please just leave me alone’. I’ll dig up the links where be begged for mercy after himself picking the fight..
He is on The Spearhead only because the comments are unmoderated. Rob Fedders reads many other blogs, but does not (cannot?) comment on them.
In fact, I would never consider visiting The Spearhead at all anymore if not for the fact that I like WF Price and Zed a lot.
A lot of the best authors have stopped posting there (PMAFT, Chuck, Roissy, Ferdinand, Paul Elam, Female Masculinist, etc.), and a lot of it is due to a just one or two abusive commenters driving others away.
I, too, am quite disgusted by how much energy Rob Fedders expends in preventing the activism of others.
dkirsh’s point about Rob being a feminist plant might not be right – he has been around too long. But I have never seen Rob actually attack a feminist or a mangina in any comments section. All he does is attack MRAs..
I also doubt Rob is a feminist plant because he has been around too long. That being said you made a good point about how Rob never attacks a feminist or a mangina in his comments. I have noticed the same thing with that Great Books For Men moron. He never attacks feminists or manginas in his comments, and his comments are all about Federal Reserve crap. I doubt he’s a feminist plant either, but you have to wonder what their real goals are.
GBfM is weird, and the one line of ‘gem’ is not worth wading through the rest of his unintelligible text. But I don’t think he tries to stymie other MRAs or antagonize anyone else directly.
Rob Fedders does that, and apparently does nothing other than that. If feminists wanted an ally to obstruct the MRM, they have no better ally than Rob Fedders.
I agree that GBFM isn’t trying to intentionally antagonize anyone, but anytime I come across a comment of his I skip it now. For all intents and purposes, he’s a waste of space.
Hello Brothers:
I believe that the “feminist plants” which are most effective do not attack the men’s rights movement directly. They burrow inside and gain the confidence of legitimate activists, so that they can quietly get personal information and pass it on to their handlers. At the same time they spread rumors, and incite good people to waste time, money and effort fighting among themselves.
This is an old tactic and it has been used for years. Google COINTELPRO for the back story. Anyone who doesn’t believe that the MRA has aroused the attention and ire of the feminists and the establishment needs only look at other current events in context. We are at least as threatening as many of the peacenik movements of the 1960s.
Whether or not Fedders is an official feminist plant, his harassment of the people who are actually doing positive things in the real world points to him serving their interests, and being a sympathizer of their cause. I’ve been to his site, it’s silly (with Al Bundy front and center) and tends to paint us and our movement as idiots. He does nothing but try to demoralize those who are working for positive social change, and never does anything in the real world himself. For this reason, I believe that discussions with him are about as useful as discussions with any other feminist. He is your enemy. He acts like it and takes pride in it. His behavior is proof of that. Please keep concentrating on bringing the message out and don’t take his insults seriously.
So what can be done about this? Beyond my skepticism that this is happening right now, this seems to be an excuse for inaction (which means they win by default) or paranoia. If this is happening then there are individuals in our midst working for the government or feminism. Who do you think they are and why? Is this just another circular firing squad.
It definitely shouldn’t be an excuse for inaction.
It is always at the front of my mind, when someone, from out of nowhere, jumps into a conversation and derails it, or when an obsessive looney starts harassing people on an MRM message board. There are a few different characters who do this, and whatever their motivation, they are working for the enemies of the movement.
This is why I originally posted my response here. When one of the usual suspects compels a solid man to waste time and effort flaming with him, he is victorious. Why? Because he came for the purposes of lowering the morale and spirit of the whole, and specifically for discouraging his target from going out with a clear mind and doing what needs to be done.
Rather than flame back at people like this, the proper thing to do is ignore them. Don’t give them any information about oneself or others. Don’t believe any of the rumors they spread about other men, and trust that other men will not believe any of their lies about you. By all means, don’t respond or fight with them. That is his goal: to disrupt the movement and demoralize people, and to get people fighting among themselves.
Just ignore, ignore, ignore. They are of no significance, either here or in the real world, until we play their game with them. Keep doing exactly what you’ve been doing. Post leaflets, spread the word, and never mind the feminist trolls.
BTW, here is a link of a recent time where Rob Fedders was reduced to begging his opponent (Oddsock in this case) to ‘please just leave me alone’ :
http://www.the-spearhead.com/2012/05/11/the-wisdom-in-not-arguing-with-a-woman/#comment-149302
http://www.the-spearhead.com/2012/05/11/the-wisdom-in-not-arguing-with-a-woman/#comment-149304
Oddsock was being reasonable and courteous. Rob Fedders went insane and escalated the hostility, but was himself reduced to ‘please just leave me alone’ before long.
Of course, he will attack the same person the next day as if nothing happened.
This happens often (I got Rob Fedders to similarly beg for mercy on InMalaFide a couple of times. Too bad those archives have been deleted). The same thing happened when he attacked Paul Elam at AVfM.
I am storing this here for future reference. It is amazing that there are lowlifes who do nothing but harass others, beg for mercy upon the subject fighting back, and then starting new harassment of the same person again the next day.
I just found this article. Please keep us updated on this movie.
If they make a good one, I’ll want to watch, and share it with friends and family. I might wind up buying multiple copies, which I would think would help to fund future movies of similar sorts.