Feb 202012
 

A post over at The Spearhead a few days ago brought up how men under 30 are more clued in about women than anyone other age group of men.  Several comments basically communicated the fact that men under 30 are increasingly fed up with women:

Thanks for mentioning us younger guys. As a under 30 millenial, I will tell you exactly why most of us have this outlook.

We are the divorce generation. Even if we grew up in families that weren’t divorced we were still latch key kids.

Not only did I, a little over a decade ago, have more friends with single mothers by choice but also with divorced parents than intact families I also went to school with girls and came of age during the grrl power of the 90s.

This idea of women as victims falls on deaf ears when you spend year after year dealing with fucking cunts.

Team vagina can tell me all day long about how women would never lie about birth control or use men for child support and so on.

But, I know better. The high school I went to, a little over a decade ago, had a Teen Mom(watch that show on MTV if you want a realistic look) or two in almost every single class I had.

I literally only had one class in high school that didn’t have a pregnant girl in it. Several had two or three, out of 30 or 35 students and not enough book. Gotta love shitty high schools in the south.

That is just high school. If you look at reddit and the mens rights section in particular you will see that most of the guy are about my age(maybe a few years older) or younger.

Even the guys that aren’t in the MRA section on reddit have a very warped view of women and relationships. I think this is due to being born in the divorce generation.

Who needs to burn their own hand to find out that fire is hot when you can watch dozens upon dozens of older men burn their hands and scream in pain? Who needs that, so to speak?

This doesn’t even begin to talk about growing up in a feminized education system or the entitlement issues run rampant that most young women have or all the other issues.

To put it simply: You can’t kick a dog and not expect it to eventually bite the hand that feeds.

Guys of my generation have been kicked since we were puppies, and we were kicked constantly and from everyone who supposedly loved and cared for us.

There is a groundswell of MRAism and misogyny and just a lot of pissed off guys for one reason or another.

I haven’t, for example, met a single guy in his 20s who hasn’t had alteast one or more psycho bitch crazy ex gfs.

There is a reason that guys on reddit have a saying that goes like this: “dont stick your dick in crazy.”

There is also a reason that feminists have gotten so angry over young men and what young men say that they have created a very hostile troll group on reddit called Shit Reddit Says, or SRS. This SRS group exists to do nothing more than attack MRAs and other young men and mock them.

I suggest you don’t spend too much time looking at their shit, but if you haven’t heard about them before then I do suggest you head to reddit and search for them and take a look at their subreddits. They are a perfect example of the crazy cunts that guys like me have had to deal with growing up. They have no argument or abilit to even discuss topics, they simply mock and jeer.

As far as this article goes, I agree. Not only that but the MRM is making headway as far as getting out message out.

This article is full of female projection and female hope but it also uses the term hypergamy, which I first read about in Devlins work and the MRM.

Marriage Suits Educated Women:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/12/opinion/sunday/marriage-suits-educated-women.html?_r=1

THe comments are interesting to say the least. All sorts of older single women complaining about how the article isn’t true, cause men are afraid of educated women(lol). I suggest you all check it out.

The simple truth is that I, and I suspect most guys (especially of my generation), simply get tired of the constant competiveness and bitchy demeanor of western women. Especially the hyper educated (with liberal arts masters) who want to rub it into our faces constantly.

Unlike men of older generations I have had more girlfriends than most older guys had in their entire lives before I turned 21. I can honestly say that women do not add any value, outside of the value of pussy and sex, to a mans life.

Even with great sex it gets fucken old, it wears you down and makes you tired, having to constantly deal with the power struggles in modern relationships.

I haven’t even lived with a girl and I am sick of it. After I got out of my longest LTR a few years back, it only lasted about 3 yrs, I was just drained. It felt like my soul had been sucked out or something.

Women aren’t companions these days. They are ruthless competitors at work, at school, and even in our relationships.

Why would I or any other guy, especially us younger guys who learned this the hard way, give one fuckin shit about women?

In the last three weeks I have had three times where a group of young women, college girls from the University down the stree, asked me for help while I was driving. Each time I told them to fuck off.

One of those times was last night. I was at a drive through and it was cold and raining out. This hot blonde chick tapped on my window and asked me if I would give her and her friends a ride down the street so they wouldn’t have to walk home in the cold rain. I told them to fuck off. I am not a limo or taxi service. They could have offered to give me a group blowjob and the most that would have happened would have been me jizzing on their face and then riding off. TBH, I wouldn’t have even done that. Last thing I want to deal with is a false rape claim.

Women have pissed away any good will guys my age used to have towards them. If you don’t believe me then simply look at markets and see what sells to young men and see how young men view women.

Go and look at online forums based around video games and you will see young men talking shit about girls their age. Hell, get on some feminist sites and you will see feminists complaining about young guys, teenage guys, talking constant shit about women. Look at reddit and you will see it too. Look at any male oriented areas and you will see it.

Look at rap music or the proliferation of the word gold digger. Women are worthless these days, especially after or before sex. I think they are realizing it too. There is no happy ever after. There is no ’till death do us part’, cause we all know that women are branch swingers or monkeys. They won’t let go of one branch until their hands are firmly planted on another branch.

Oh and Branch = cock. Females tend to call it serial monogamy.

Fuck that shit. They won’t love you. They will just treat you as a utility object. A fucking ATM or sperm donor or human shield or emotional tampon/shrink or a dildo or a rock to lean on and so on.

My point is this. What do women have any more??? Pussy is cheaper to come by, especially if you know some game, than candy on halloween. They can’t cook or clean worth shit. They are honest. They aren’t equal to any degree, especially 99% of them.

What do women have to offer besides a funhole to play with for 45 minutes? They suck as friends, shit they give their own friends eating disorders and call them frenemies.

WTF do women have to offer? I think it is very little and I think young men are figureing this out every day.

I think women are realizing that their gravy train is coming off the tracks and are scared shitless. I think many, if not most, young men wouldn’t allow a woman to go back to the kitchen and be barefoot even if the women begged for them to be allowed to be kept. I think women know this and I think that is why they are getting even more bitchy.

I think this will only backfire for women as a whole and I am looking forward to seeing it all fall apart. This comment is long enough, so I will just say nice article.

Here’s another comment agreeing with the previous comment:

I will agree with Troll King’s assement of the men of the Millenial generation. We have seen a lot going through high school, but especially college. We have seen women engaging in hypergamy and relastionship games without them even keeping up the pretense of “Romance.”

It could be put down to the bitterness and schadenfruede of the “famous dateless losers.” But then we ask, “why are we dateless?” Because we can’t compete with the vapid game of the player, okay but what does that say about women? Because we cannot compete with the empowered career female to satisfy her hypergamous needs, okay but doesn’t that then mean love and romance are hyporcitical games and thus make woman a liar?

Back in college my one buddy was really into a band, Reel Big Fish, and we were driving aroudn once musing when he put on a song of their’s in whcih the story is about a girl who snubbed the band leader when he was starting out, but since he has been successful has returned to seek his attention. So my friends turns to me and says, “fuck these bitches, they go to college and slut it up, then expect to find a nice guy who makes money after he gets a career. Who wants a used up whore?” Remember this was the mid 00′s so we thought success would be ours, if not for the mancession.

The problem from the female perspective is their narrow focus, there are still little bitch men who will put all there energy into a relationship just to have pussy validation. So when these females have their girlfriend with a dick, they make sure their social circle consists of other attatched females. Even other females who are not at the same standing as them do not exist in the her world. These are also the type of men who are so debased as to have no self-respect, virtue, or honor.

An example, a buddy of mine had this female friend from high school who was the biggest slut you could know, if she went out drinking she was out fucking. He has a fuck buddy relationship with her, and she starts dating some new guy, some bouncer who is a shy mangina. One night they are out drinking, bouncer boy goes in the back to lay down, and my buddy starts banging her on the couch, bouncer boy comes out afterwards to see them naked on the couch. Now this guy is such a mangina that he can’t accept what just happened and buys the excuse that it was just drunken making out.

This was about two years ago, mangina bouncer is still with the slut. I guess he is the loser who will marry her.

However the inbalance will still get to them as there are still large numbers of unattached females (because guys like Troll King, at least six of my buddies, and me are not taking them on) who will compete with the attatched female for her man. Women have no inate sense of right and wrong, so there is no level they won’t sink to, us Millenial guys noted this when younger when we learned “the best way to attract girls is to have one already.”

I have one friend who was a little weenie science dude back in college, only got ass once when some born again virgin girl in his Bible study group tunred into a cock-snatching harpy on him, needless to say when the group found out she became the victim and he the evil leacher. He had another relationship with a psycho woman who ultimately rejected him because he didn’t measure up to her previous soccer playing boyfriend. So now he has bulked up, gotten into adventure sports, and is getting a masters in engineering, and rutting through the university girls.

We can see that our inate value as a person for reasons of love, does not matter except for maybe a pump and dump. So why emotionally invest in some joke, we are not women who change with the wind. A romantic blow to our psyche’s are not solved by wine parties and shaking our asses in public.

My generations of fellows are at heart nihilistic, vicious, and with very little pretense of conscience. This is because we are informed by a type of moral philosophy, brought on by the moral degeneracy in family, society, law, and relationships. We implicitly understand social contract as it applies to relationships.

They can fight back with all the laws and shaming they want, but we are men and we will adapt and survive. Let us maintain the imbalance and drive it to a fever pitch.

Another comment:

Really? I don’t know how old you are, but I can promise you that guys under 30 are fed up with women. We had to grow up next to the most entitled and bitchy group of females that ever walked this planet.

Just look at popular culture. Whether its rap music or rock music or TV or movies.

Just compare film from 50 years ago to film today. Or music.

Were there concepts back in the day similiar to gold diggers? Were men writing music about how horrible and slutty women were? I know there are some types of music that are fairly old that deal with those issues….namely some blues and jazz and country. But even that stuff doesn’t hold a candle to what you might hear on the radio today.

And another comment:

Male, 26.

I agree 100% with what Troll King has said. This mirrors my experiences (in AUS). More than half my friends in school didn’t have fathers, and although it wasn’t quite as bad as 1-2 per class, there were several girls I knew who were pregnant before 15. Some of them even knew who the father was… occasionally. Heck, one of my female friends had three children by the time she was 16, and all to different fathers.

Whatever good will I had for women ended in high school. I’ve had a few GFs since then, hoping I’d find one that wasn’t crazy, but they all are. NAWALT? Fucking yes they are.

My folks don’t help either. I tried to talk to them about it when I noticed it towards the end of high school (age 15-17). Dad could see the problem but still (even now) believes that the women who do this are in the minority. mum just refuses to see a problem and says I’m being silly. Her favourite word is misogyny. I have no idea how they’ve managed to stay married for almost 30 years.

Women are emotional vampires. They don’t bring anything of value to a relationship (I’m a qualified Chef, so I don’t need a cook. Washing machines are literally 2 button pushes) except for sex, and quite frankly, I don’t have to hug my Fleshlite afterwards. I also don’t have to worry about it lying to me about contraception. Also the sex is better!

No, women don’t have any social currency left. Girls are stupid, throw rocks at them.

And a portion of another comment:

One of the major things I have noted is the disconnect between the 30 something men and the 20 something men. Especially in regards to women and relationships (I am speaking in the general population, not the MRM): my group are functioning nihilists, while the older men still have the delusion of hope. My initial thought was a difference between the Gen-Xers having lived their lives during relative prosperity and influence from a resurgent social progresivism. Then I realized that there was a major cultural shift, similar to the rise of Jazz and the roaring 20′s in the early 20th century.

I recommend reading the full comment thread because for brevity’s sake I only included a few comments.  Men under 30 are getting fed up with women at a very fast rate.  There are a lot of men who decided to go ghost after getting fed up with women, but getting fed up with women took these men decades.  Paul Elam has talked about how he has gotten emails from teenage boys, 16 and 17 year olds, saying that they’re fed up with women.  The younger a man/boy is, the more feminism and crap from women he has had to deal with each day.  Teenage boys have now experienced the same amount of crap from women that an older man wouldn’t have gotten until he was at least 40.

As these men and boys have gotten exponentially more crap from women, women are doing less.  First, women stopped learning basic life skills like cooking.  Now, many young women are giving up on showering and basic hygiene (like I talked about recently).  I imagine that the many boys in the next crop of teenagers (if not current teenage boys) are going to get even more disgusted with women and girls than they are now because they are literally getting FILTHIER.  The smarter teenage boys will keep their dicks away from these cesspools of God knows what.  This will be helped along by technology like VR sex because technology can’t give you a STD or some other disease.  (Plus, it will probably be cleaner as in a lack of dirt/filth.)  Add that to the fact that these young men have been assaulted constantly by feminism since the day they were born, and the results as they get older will be explosive.

The good news about this is that the MRM will in the coming years and decades get a massive infusion of manpower and energy.  The bad news is that the men in charge of the MRM right now don’t really get what young men are going through now so they are ill prepared to handle the influx of all these young men.  Maybe that’s not a bad thing because these young men don’t need help figuring out who is causing them trouble.

  396 Responses to “It’s No Surprise That Young Men Are Getting Fed Up With Women Faster Than Any Other Group Of Men”

  1. I’m a young, Western woman (25) who has had feminism rammed down my throat, and I honestly feel that there is a lot of truth in what you write. I feel that this is a cause I would love to devote myself to, as I feel that we women are destroying our own happiness AND undercutting the happiness of the men in our lives. I’m trying really hard in my own marriage to go against the grain. While it’s often hard and I stuff up quite often, I am finding more joy in choosing peace over picking fights, letting things go, and knowing most of all that it is not my job to make my husband into a decent person. It is not my business what time he goes to bed, how he spends his money, how often he goes out. I don’t pretend to know more about his career or about life than he does. I truly enjoy cleaning and cooking for him, folding his laundry, packing him lunches, not because I’m his bitch, but because he works hard all day for me and our son and I want to give back something…womanly. I admire traditionalists and read a lot of their work. Has anyone here read fascinating womanhood? I think it’s wonderful. It teaches female submission, not as a political ideal but as the most useful role that we women can adopt if we want peace and harmony with a masculine man. The feminine woman. Com is another great resource,

    Oh and I hope I didn’t sound braggy, I was just tryin to express that doing those little tasks can bring us women true joy and peace in our relationships.

    • Very good thank you. I wish all women would see this way as its true. But i think this problem is stuck like glue.

    • Everybody here appreciates your comments. You know how to act like a wife and you treat your husband like a man. But you shouldn’t be telling us about it here. You should be telling all of your other feminist sisters. Women need to hear this message. Men already know it. And by not broadcasting your feelings to other women you’re actually perpetuating the problem. Silence and inaction are statements too.

    • Women don’t need to be totally submissive to men. It’s not 1950. Men want companions… someone to share in life’s ups and downs, someone to believe in them when things don’t work out and someone to celebrate with when things go well. I am 37, gainfully employed, married to a woman from europe who has a phd from an elite school and works for a major univeristy. Sadly, i tend to agree with the young men that a lot of American women have become difficult beyond belief. A man doesnt want to work all day in highly competitve environments and come home to someone who treats him like an a $$hole. Men are simple… love us, feed us and we’ll work our asses off to make you happy. My wife is my best friend. I feel very sorry for the millenial generation. The divorces destroyed their sense of what a healthy relationship is. Possible solutions could be counseling, reading on relationship health from experts and adopting their practices, or making friends with people in healthy relationships and emulating them. It’s a very sad state of affairs. My youngest brother is in his mid 20s and he’s a good guy, but he’s had lots of trouble finding a nice girl. The girls in our city move fast, talk fast and are more interested in competing with men than being their companion. Also, many of them are way too easy sexually. This dynamic is a huge contrast from when I was in high school in the 1990s and older women were preaching that all men are rapists and dangerous. Getting a kiss from a girl in the 1990s was harder than going to the moon. I remember sitting around with buddies talking about how silly the whole thing was. We sought companionship with each other when the girls our age wouldn’t reciprocate our romantic and sexual feelings. Now that I am a home owner, have a great job and live well, I look out on the dating world of young people and truly pity them (calling it that is a sfretch because getting together for a shag on tinder is not a date). The whole dynamic is so screwed that it will take another generation to transform it and bring healthy interactions to the center of relationships once again.

    • I thank you for having the ideals that you have. It is extremely rare. I was given a phone number by a woman, when I called her I was very respectful and friendly. She said she had to go, and that she would call me in a half hour. An hour later she sent me a text message saying she doesn’t want to talk to strangers. Except for family, we are all strangers when we first meet someone .do you see how crazy women are? No logic, no respect, they are their own worst enemy.

    • I would like to point out to you that doing any of the traditional woman things does not make you a weak woman. Not that you said you were – but i am just stating that by doing what you do makes you strong and unified with your husband. Sure there are pig men out there who bash their wife for not cleaning or something insignificant but when you place a man above you, like he would you in certain ways (natural love), than i bet deep down that you feel better and more comfortable as he probably does. I guess if a man has to go out and work for himself and for someone else, shouldn’t that someone else help him any way she can to make life easier for both of them, and perhaps enjoy some leisure time together if she utilizes the time he is at work to do those helpful things?

      Women claim they are objectified but objectify men also and also spend hours everyday objectifying themselves by making sure they are looking good, even if it is the false claim they make “for other women or themselves”. No – it is for men and they know it. Women love the attention. Men love it when a woman dresses up HOT! Why does she see this as a threat. It is attraction, just like a Peacock sprouts its feathers for a mate. It doesn’t mean it has to happen but it is nice all round when it does happen. Yet the threat bit to me is just her way of victimizing herself and nothing more – she loves the attention from all men, unless they are ugly to her. You can’t tell me that a woman does not like it when a man dotes on her or makes her feel good about herself by saying she looks stunning or hot, or whistles at her or something similar. In fact women even ask the typical questions – “Do i look good in this?” “Is my bum big in this?” And every man knows that she is doing it for other men and not him because he knows she doesn’t care how he sees her now, she has him. She only cares how other men see her because in the back of her mind she always has one foot out the door and the other follows when she does not get her own way. In fact these days, if she works, she can just go whenever she pleases and has no responsibility at all for any of the abuse she commits.

      I can’t see why so many believe there is something wrong with the values of stay home woman and working man? To me it is called respect for one another and compromise. Not only that, it is your own choice and nobody should tell you how you should feel or act or do things, which is a major problem in this world with everything we do. You may, after awhile feel it is boring and you may feel unappreciated but rest assured, not many jobs that men do get appreciation or are a picnic either. Most jobs are just for survival.

      When my ex and i were together, i had a job delivering the same route everyday. It was hard work, fast paced and heavy lifting all day. It was the exact same route so you can imagine how boring it was. It was so boring i knew every number of every house in every street and could place 300 parcels in exact order for delivery. Just like staying home doing the dishes, would be boring and get you riled up. Of course you are more free however. You can go out at anytime or go to the shop for a coffee or watch a midday movie, to break the boredom and even not do the dishes, if you don’t have a man that i mentioned above. A man in most jobs can’t do this with a boss up his ass all day long. Women now know this since they are in 9 to 5 jobs. It ain’t the picnic they believed it was and still a lot of women are not happy and continue to blame men for their unhappiness.

      Anyway my ex used to meet me for lunch with toasted sandwiches and our baby at the park, which was the best surprise all day and made the afternoon go great. I appreciated her for this and what i earned was hers too. It was what we had to do in this world with fake monopoly money as our enslavement for survival. This is compromise. There isn’t anything we can do about it unless we take out the ones enforcing it upon us. At one point i stayed home with our second child, while she went back to work, for reasons i won’t go into but i stood by her with something not so good, and the thanks i get is disgraceful. Let’s just say women abuse children by denying fathers and this is seen as a normal thing to do. Oh! and then they also go on about how a man is abusive to them or deadbeat for not looking after the kids, even though she is denying the kids. It has been going on long before i was born also – not just in today’s world. True INSANITY.

      Another thing from a mans point of view – He goes to work, he comes home, he greets you or whatever happens. He doesn’t know there is any problem unless you tell him. He also has had a crap day. There is nothing he can do for you, whilst at work, even though he probably wishes he could. Take his job away by being spoiled and you also take away your income. His income is both your income, even if you believe it isn’t. You go to the stores to buy all the food that you eat too; and the electricity that you also use gets paid out of this wage. It is both of yours for survival.

      This feminist garbage that a stay home woman is being taken advantage of is nonsense. Isn’t he getting taken advantage of as well? This is how the inventors of money wanted it. We are all enslaved and kicked down. If we weren’t, they wouldn’t be able to take advantage of us all and make huge profits, while they sit on their asses doing nothing. It is designed and is not the fault of the average working man or stay home woman. He has been conditioned to go out and work for the family or fight in designed wars. He thinks he is doing what is right and; he is in reality, it is called balance. There will never be equality ever. Tell a person with no legs about equality. Not many women go out and build buildings or slop around in mud and guts. Not many want to because deep down they know what us men have to go through, to keep this world from falling apart, is not some fairy tale. Imagine if they were made to. Do you really think this world of buildings and infrastructure would be the way it is now? Maybe over thousands of years from adaptation or evolution, it might be but then men would have to be able to give birth as well.

      Today however, all i see feminism doing is making women weaker. It is victimizing them and when a woman takes advantage of all the rewards that this does, she becomes weaker, than what she claims she wants to be. Men seem to be getting stronger and bigger, i guess because we are becoming more and more enslaved in hard labor jobs everyday. Women are getting all the easier jobs and pushing men out of them, while still complaining about inequality to themselves, yet don’t want to do the same jobs, only the selected jobs.

      This is why men get riled up at feminists. These women claim they are oppressed, yet do not want to do the same jobs needed for humanity to continue. They want the lavish jobs and leave the not so lavish to men. In fact nothing has really changed throughout time, except jobs can now pay men less because women also work and we are all working harder then before to cope, while governments get more tax, some families suffer because others have all the jobs and banks get richer and big bosses capitalize even more. Feminism is ruining it all and nothing is seen of value anymore. If we had less workers, one gender perhaps, then the worker would be seen as more valuable. Is any of this equality? Not from a mans point of view. It is domination and lies. It is wanting their cake and eat it too. They refuse to see how men were oppressed also in history, especially white men being oppressed. Apparently ALL white men had it easy. I would you to tell that to the millions who suffer just like the rest of you. In fact all these women are trying to be rewarded for past events that have been manipulated through media. And proof of this is how we now have female and black leaders who continue to oppress us all. It is just like whites oppressing blacks, yet there are plenty very well off black people compared to white people also. Africa is still not very civilized and white men have not done this – they have done this to themselves. It does not matter who you are, we are all oppressed, except for the bank owners and thieving governments, whether they are men or women, white or black.

      Think about this – Over the years we have heard how white men destroyed the Americas and Australia. Okay it sounds legitimate but the white people of today did not do this. In fact we are being oppressed now because of what our ancestors did or were made to do.

      Made to do? Convicts were enforced to inhabit Australia, they had no choice so they were oppressed as well. They were enforced to build on this new land and would receive far greater capital punishment then what people receive today. We are talking – lashings and beatings, starvation, chain gangs of hard labor. They got this dealt to them for stealing loafs of bread to feed their families. So the reality is, white people are still being oppressed as they were in those times. Is it our fault today that we build civilizations, yet Africa still in this day live in huts and use spears and if they get a hold of guns, they murder much easier? I never gave anyone a gun. I never made any guns. I have never owned a gun. In fact i am sure Asians also made guns long before white people – so who is truly to blame? We should be just moving on instead of all this waste over history. Greed is killing us all.

      Speaking of Asians – China oppresses its own people, yet still today western or whites, if you will are to blame for all of mans wrong doings, even if we have medical ships that sail the seas to foreign lands, where we could be killed for trying to help sick people. This entire world is fake and is portrayed in the media however they want it portrayed so they can gain a profit and take over control. Hell, a white person may capitalize on all the oil but still all other white people are bound by the cost so they can survive. The richest man in India is the 3rd richest in the world. This is not a white man. Even in war times, white men and black men were enforced to go and murder. It doesn’t matter if a white man enforced it or not. The ones who were enforced, whether white or black or women or Asian are the oppressed ones and a lot of them were the murdered ones. I wonder what the ratio is however? How many whites blacks and Asians were killed in warfare to see just how sad it really is for white men glorified as over privileged, yet suffer the same agonies. In fact it seems that White men are paying for almost everything these days, while the rest lap up all the easy inventions for themselves. There are only racist and sexist white men and white men are made to slave to please every other minority that cries how hard they have it.What they fail to see is a white man slaving his guts out and still only having what a woman of black man has, that sit on their asses all day. In saying this, it isn’t always the case and it can be vice versa or a black enslaved man paying the way of a woman or another black through taxes. My point being it is so out of control that this is where the manipulators want it to be so they can sneak underneath the radar and profit and control via all the chaos they have created through manipulation. Don’t tell them a white man told you this though….

      If a woman is going to want to do what a man does, then she should do it all. In saying that, when a woman goes butch in this way, she is less attractive to most men because she isn’t an attractive woman to him. She can dig around in the garden or mow the lawn or fix a car but if this is occasional, it is cute and attractive. This has nothing to do with domination or any of that nonsense. It has to do with attraction. Suddenly she is more like a man in hard jobs and unless you are gay; and even gay men are not attracted to the butch woman; she does not interest romantically. I guess natural instinct tells a man that he is looking for a woman, who is able to carry his baby without hurting that baby, by doing strenuous activities. He also needs a woman who can take care of the home while he has to go and forage for food or in modern times work for paper money.

      Looking after the home is a territorial trait. It is to stop other tribes from taking over. It is also to make sure the home is safe for baby. These are very noble jobs and makes sense because men are built strong to labor and fight. Women are built strong to cope with baby and nesting. I believe a natural woman is also more positive in nature. They are the ones who be cute, play, cuddle, kiss. Tell men how strong they are. Imagine a man who arrives home from battle to a happy woman. Suddenly the battle does not seem so bad and is worth the effort. Come home to a complaining woman after being complained to all day and life is shit.

      Women are also brilliant manipulators. This is why men are blamed for everything that happens, yet women commit much the same things. Men in today’s society are waking up to this though and are sick and tired because we are being treated like shit continuously. We get no reward anymore. We are just the slaves. We are the ones to laugh at, to bash, to murder, to lay all problem on behind our back (while we are at work doing what is needed) to be cheated on, to please her without her pleasing you. That is why i am a MGTOW now. I am not interested in being gay and every woman i now meet is over privileged so i am not interested in even sex anymore. It is too risky. However i yearn and pine for a companion every waking second. I awake in nightmares about my stolen children. I have Chronic PTSD from the way i have been treated and at most times wish a plane would fall from the skies and take me because i see no point to any of this anymore. I guess this is what feminism has done to me and oh! yes, contrary to what women of today are told, i endured this radical disgrace of feminism as a child too. What is a child? Whether a boy or girl, a child is reliant on parents and other adult figures. There is no escaping this so as a boy i was oppressed (used) by my mother, to who i have not seen in 27 years after child support (maintenance) stopped. My step mother worked and cooked for me, while my mother did nothing but blame men for everything, even with her talents. My dad work 70 hour weeks to try and get a home and i have no relationship with any of them. That is what this world is about. And while adoring my own children i am denied a relationship with them too. You could probably imagine how wild i am and most of us are with this. It is time for war.

  2. The whole point of submission is to control your emotions, submission is a womans version of logic, it allows women to solve problems while keeping their emotions under control

    The other major problem is marriage, as long as your husbands married he’s forced to support the feminist state

    If you want a family, have kids out of a marriage contract, & put unknown father on their birth certificate, to prevent the government from forcing him to pay child support, even if you dont want him to

    Either that or sign a surrogate contract with your husband, outside of marriage, again preventing him from getting divorce raped by the government & their cronies

    If you really want a family, & care about your husband, you have to fight the system & take those steps

    Also your husband should have the freedom to bang hotter women, when you become infertile & out of shape

    That is if all you’re doing isnt bragging about the paycheck he brings home, so you can live in comfort, while he lives under the threat of having his entire life destroyed by the government

    Take real steps at protecting your husband & his rights, if you dont all you’re doing is bragging about stealing from a man, under threat of a brutal government

  3. Girls are very picky and are statically the ones that initiate divorce. They think they’re cream of the crop now lol. That’s going to change though. The generation after millenials are seeing baby girls popped out like crazy. Women are going to drop their standards in America. Because it’s going to pretty much be 3 options. 1 go lesbian. 2 lower standards because men of my generation are very scarce. 3 just date a millenial or generation x guy. Suck it

  4. Hi Guys.
    To those of you who are “inexperienced” in matters concerning the Gluttony of the “fairer” sex, let me explain. I am 54 years old, have been married ONLY once (I’m a quick learner). You don’t need to have a regular female, way way too expensive, and completely VERY VERY bad or your health and $$$$.
    You are a guy, you can fuck any woman you want, it only takes one bull to fuck 50 cows, soooo, no particular cow is special. If you get lonely, that’s what your mates are for. If you need some one to clean your house, hire a bitch to do it, or, better still do it yourself. If you can’t cook, eat junk food, or get a crock pot. Elaborating on the above. A wife costs you a shit load of money, just to have her on hand (listen to her whinge and whine, raggy mood swings, menstral madness etc, etc..), she probably doesn’t do too much that you can’t do yourself, say, like washing your own clothes. She is going to demand babies, a house and much much more. This is her right, OR, so she thinks. Once you have given her the above, she is of no use to you…(so, you think you are still going to get sex from her, you poor ignorant soul) BUT, you are still required to pay pay pay, for her and the kids, what for?, what is in it for you?, NOTHING, NOT a god damned thing, YOU are just her meal ticket, once she has finished with you, she will get rid of you, NO, you don’t think so, because she loves you…hahaha, if you believe this, you are an idiot! The courts will award her ALL your possessions, make no mistake, you will NOT have a say in this. If you need to get laid, and who doesn’t, hire a hooker (always wear a rain coat, condom, stinky fannies carry very nasty diseases, smell it first, if it smells off, it DEFINITELY is!). There are many many slutty females out there, who are only too willing to open their legs for a couple of lousey bucks $$$, after all, that’s what females do right, blood suck men for $$$$. Only thing is, when you have fucked the prostitute, you can wipe your dick on her curtains and leave… no maintenance, no whinging etc. and all the other crap, nice hey! Go home have a beer, lay back relax. Bitches on th other hand need men. NO, don’t believe other wise. A man can do a females work, BUT a female CAN NOT do a mans work. If you take away her power to hold her stinky thing between her legs over you, YOU have the upper hand, simple. If I could suck my own dick, females would be obsolete, cheers. Have a nice day.

  5. Well with so many women today that are very high maintenance, independent, selfish, spoiled, greedy, narcissists, and very money hungry, they really have Ruined us Good men.

  6. Guys on this forum: I am currently a second year Comp Sci major and live in Femi-central known as Canada. I was never a nerd until about grade 10, I have lived in 3 different countries come from a wealthy family in which my Dad works mum stays home and she raised kids, maintained the household and I played every sport from ice hockey to bowling as a kid and was normally quite popular and manly until grade 10. Due to family issues as a result of my mum going pshcyo due to my older brother whom I never saw after the age of 9, I am 20 now, she treated me like trash and went out of her way to ruin my life to the point that I turned to drugs etc. My dad is very successful but he works for it so he was home maybe two days a week during which he watched news and sorta talked to me. As a high schooler I had a tough time dealing with my mum and my dad did not have the time to care so to make his life better he sided with my mum which set me off the deep end. As a result I went full nerd pussy validating faggot and my dad grew up as a farm boy so he let me know i was acting girly. I was rebellious as a result and got into bad stuff. After realizing that club women really didn’t care about the guys they talk to and found me being a nerd kinda lame. I was trying to fit in so I did drugs and did them well and was very well informed so girls were all good with my awkwardness and called it cute or whatever since i got them good shit. So I dated a semi obese girl who was from an abusive family and she was more of a man then me this got me thinking…..I was at a local community college still debating what to major in since I was really just doing drugs to avoid my family I am not a delinquent at all I ended up getting my parents to agree to move back to my home Province, i was previously in North Carolina which the high school system not only made me racist I was as anti women as you can get and I think someone mentioned this earlier but I thought Id say it again. I am now surrounded by feminists in Canada and holy fuck did I have to learn all over agian why women are cunts. I have since lost weight and still am nerdy I love nerdy shit but I am a man and I have started acting like it. I dated an Asian women since they are the few races that are still interested in men not faggots who want pussy validation. I was able to act like a man to her and I realized that I was still a girly guy because she had me going to dinners just because I didn’t want to keep listening to her complain. She let me do lots on things you see in Asian porn and even wore her school outfit which she brought from asia but it was all manipulation. I started to say to myself oh she did that for me i should skip my homework tonight to eat I FUCKED UP. The second you start compromising is the second your relationship is compromised….I have started to say Asian women are much more supportive and better in bed and I would rather marry an Asian then anyone if I do get married it WILL be an Asian but the fact of the matter is, ALL females are manipulative cunts. Asian women are better but they are just smarter about how they manipulate men. They still feel worthless but they use that by acting all cute and being great in bed to manipulate men. It is sorcery at first but I realized it is fake and am single again. I will try to date again when I am employed and live alone and support myself financially because right now, the only thing I cannot due is pay for things. I was a better cook then my ex because she came from a wealthy family that had Thai maids cook for them and so I was a better cook then her, I think most asian girls can cook very well thought, I do laundry but if I had expensive clothing or suits that is what “5 dorra clean clothes 4 u” stores are for and I am a very hard working man who has a cleaner place of residence then she did with Thai maids cleaning for her. I wanted to suggest some books for men who want to be real men: All the kings men by Robert Penn Warren; The fountainhead by Ayn rand. I really appreciate these forums because my dad and I aren’t like father and son’s should be because a women made him choose between her and I. I am no longer apart of my family but my 27 year old sister who graduated with a teaching degree and couldn’t answer a question at a job interview that was “what was the demographic of your high school”..she didn’t know what the word demographic meant yet my dad sends her to Vegas and lets her buy name brands and she drives a new lexus and lives on my parents money while working at an inner city school and using her salary as party money while I am not asked to come home for Holidays and barely have enough money to eat let alone pay for gas prices in my sisters old car. I know this sounds like bitching but the purpose of saying it on here was to explain that even older 60 year old men are giving in to Cunts even if it means essentially abandoning their own male offspring. I am glad I can understand this is an opportunity to learn to survive and adapt as another person said men do. I am surrounded by the bitchy cunts who have sociology degrees daily and as a comp sci major I can say they are beyond stupid and yet they act all high and mighty. It is utterly pathetic and I am disgusted by the effeminate men who cater to these cunts. Hopefully this forum helps others like it has me.

    • Forgot to check notify me, ignore this one.

      • God damn!…learn how to make a paragraph.

        • Jawohl, Frau Grammar-Polizei!
          If you don’t like it don’t read it…haha

        • If nobody can read your words then why did you waste all that time to write it? Why don’t you write something that people CAN read. You make men look like barbaric idiots.

  7. The only woman who will ever love you is your mother.
    Its that simple.

    To all other women you are an asset and no more emotionally important to them than any other asset.
    If you pay dividends you get rewarded.
    If you dont they will look for a better asset.
    Even if you do, after a time they will tire of you and look for a new/different asset
    Every reward is recorded in their mental ledger and they expect to be compensated, often well above market price.
    If they dont think they have been compensated for every little thing they have ever done they hate you.
    If they do think they have been compensated accordingly they will loose interest in you.

    Older men (like me) know this, but most still considered the emotional and psychological toll of long term relationships worth that price for the benefits of making some of you millennial children.

    However, now that you have left our homes and moved on we are free to part ways with our wives, and actually enjoy the remainder of our lives.

    This is life, some are givers some are takers and the rest watch as it all goes buy

    P.S. used to be called the seven year itch, thats about how long any relationship should last, anymore than that and you are foolling yourself

    • I would argue even your mother may not love you; I’m convinced at this point women don’t really ‘love’ anyone. They simply see potential usefulness in men. Some like to argue that women possess “opportunistic love”. But that’s not really love at all, is it?

      Mothers don’t love their sons. They simply see us as future workhorses to support them in old age and/or additional males to give them attention (attention is basically what every woman thrives off of).

    • Sometimes not even your mother .

  8. I love when my wife does “Traditional” wife duties… HOWEVER, I also feel guilty when she does; I’ll explain why.

    My mom was a stay at home mom; she took care of ALL the traditional wife duties; she did not work outside the home, except for one year as a school custodian’s assistant, where she cleaned various areas of an elementary school. She worked during school hours and was home taking care of us, when we were home.

    I NEVER saw her happier than during that time. In retrospect, my mom suffered from depression most of my childhood; what can I say, if you knew me, her youngest son, you would understand… ‘nuf said. I can’t help but think that she would have liked having a career instead.

    Later, my wife of fifteen years, had a dream of doing something other than being a stay at home mom. She started out as a stay at home mom, but found she was depressed doing so. Thinking about what I saw in my own mom, I encouraged my wife to return to school, she did.

    My wife, not knowing what she wanted to do, she studied in several fields for about two years; constantly changing her major. She worked hard in school, and I STAYED HOME AND CARED FOR OUR KIDS. Yes, I am officially to blame for who they are… sorry world, I hope it works out in the end.

    My wife eventually decided to attend nursing school. Wow, a natural, to say the least. She was on the Dean’s List every semester, and graduated with honors. I am still impressed by her efforts. She was accepted for a NICU position in a well respected program straight out of school. For those that are not aware, this is almost unheard of.

    She has since returned to school to acquire her masters degree, and now as a Nurse Practitioner. In addition, she works a second and third job as an Adjunct Professor, and a clinical leader for a prominent nursing school and a state university. She has done all of this in six years time!

    Every time I see her doing traditional wife duties, I am reminded that she has accomplished so much, and yet feels that she has neglected us, her family. I could not be more proud of her, and let her know every opportunity I get. However, I can see in her eyes, her smile, and her attitude, that she feels she has forsaken her duties as wife and mother to follow her dreams.

    I believe there is no happiness for women, regardless of which path they choose. Or, maybe it is just the ones that have had to live with me.

    • I believe there is plenty of happiness for these women in your life. The sole reason being they are permitted to make that choice in the first place.

      How many men on the other side of the coin can simply decide to quit their job and find another that pays less, but they enjoy more? Or just stop and allow the woman to become the breadwinner without her becoming resentful?

      Speaking of which, the medical industry has many high earning males. Many of which would be above your wife’s station. Heard of the term Hypergamy? With you abdicating your ‘traditional’ male duty of being the provider and proving you had status over her she’ll look to the attractive doctor at her workplace. Over time she’ll slowly lose respect and sexual interest in you as her interest in these men grows.

      So, women win regardless of which path they choose. Should they stay home, they get to use their time as they wish and kick their feet up while the man works himself into an early grave. Should you stay home and she works, then she’ll lose what little respect for you she might have had and start screwing the doctors at work. Eventually she’ll divorce you.

      Its time you woke up and stop believing women are victims in way, shape or form.

      • I believe this – because time and time again, when the woman goes out to work she comes home ranting and raving about you getting off your fat ass and getting a job because it is a tough job for her to stay home with the kids and watch midday movies and cheat on you with the postman – but if you stay home that job suddenly becomes insignificant.

        Even today where many more men are single – MGTOW perhaps, doing all the duties of taking care of the house as well as working, we are still deemed as not anything in the home or looking after the kids, yet once again we witness just how piggy women are at cleanliness and how men seem to be more in tune.

        I believe this stems from our natural way, where the man is the stronger and should be doing the labor. If you stay home you are weak and she wants a big tall dark haired strong man but don’t ever objectify her, that is a no no! Only she is able to do that.

        I believe that it is not worth being with any women ever again because unless they are getting their own way with absolutely everything than you will be with a raging nightmare. This includes telling you what to do but wanting you to tell her what to do. It includes all decisions of the children and home. It includes being able to cheat at will but deny you even looking at another woman.

        My neighbor as i predicted by me, is going through exactly what i have seen over and over.

        He lost his job – she works. He is 25, she 40. Mummy and Daddy give her the job she has. Since losing his job, the arguing began and has gotten that bad, the entire neighborhood can hear it. He told me a short while ago it is always about something trivial and escalates into a doomed ending in my opinion. It maybe about the dishcloth on the sink. Which is my point – It isn’t about the dishcloth at all. It is about him staying home while she works. Hell, he even keeps the house spotless and she isn’t happy.

        Women want their cake and eat it as well, yet they are not happy with that also. There is just no use being with them because they will eventually destroy you and have the law unanimously in their favor, whether they are the criminal or not. Once you have kids with them, your life is over because those kids will be used against you forever and subconsciously every man knows this. In this country, you only have to date them a couple months and she can take more than half the house that you worked for 22 years to build, without her ever doing anything significant to own it. That alone tells me it is time for war and to remove the scum in power.

        We know if we don’t do as she wants, even though her natural instinct is to want you to control her as her mind is like the kids you have, you will lose those kids for sure and be forever fighting for your birthright to be a parent to no avail. She also knows this and is why she treats you like dirt. SPOILED BRATS. No woman will ever go out and do the real labor, or very little will. They still want the nurturing easy jobs like nursing or childcare or cooking. They instinctively are for these job. They believe that staying home doing these jobs, someone is taking advantage of them, yet they insist on doing these jobs elsewhere, while regurgitating that they are oppressed. They like comfort so will sit in an air conditioned offices typing, thinking that is true work that we all need.

  9. You don’t know my mother than.

  10. Just too many Loser women out there nowadays that are Good for Nothing.

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