Jul 042011
 

“As you know, you go to war with the Army you have. They’re not the Army you might want or wish to have at a later time.”

-Donald Rumsfeld

There has been a lot of criticism of MRAs speaking out about Thomas Ball from other MRAs and our supporters (such as this) because Mr. Ball isn’t the perfect victim of anti-family courts.  Mr. Ball did slap his daughter and wrote things in his manifesto that could be used against MRAs.  While all of that are good points, remember what Rumsfeld has said.  You go to war with what you got, not what you want or would wish to have later.  The reaction to Mr. Ball has given us several unique opportunities to strike back at feminists despite all the negatives so we must use them.  We can ask questions like, why does Wikipedia not want to talk about him if he’s just an abusive man?  We can point out how feminists like Amanda Marcotte are saying crazy things like male suicide is abuse of women.  Remember she didn’t say it just applied to Mr. Ball.  It applied to men committing suicide in general.  We can also point out how feminists like Amanda Marcotte casually throw out the word, “terrorist”, to describe men who commit suicide, not just Mr. Ball.

Bigger than all of that is the potential for MRM exposure.  Many conservatives hate Amanda Marcotte with a passion so they have run with what we had to say about Mr. Ball and given a platform for exposing the misandry of feminists.  We could not have left that opportunity on the table because Mr. Ball wasn’t perfect.  As Rumsfeld said, sometimes you have to go to war with what you got and not what you wish you had.  This was one of those times.

  6 Responses to “The Wisdom Of Donald Rumsfeld”

  1. http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/historic_figures/davison_emily.shtml

    This moron who perhaps didn’t know a thing about how things worked, and here’s an unflattering youtube comment:

    “she was idiot–a complete idiot. she was a militant terrorist. she planted a bomb in a man’s house, simply to make a point. she blew it up and could have killed someone. nice. she violently attacked a man, thinking he was the challcellor–and it wasn’t even him! she was an unstable, radical fool. then, as a final act of idiocy, stepped in front of a speeding horse! the king’s horse! it could have killed him! but, luckily, it was just her that died. good riddance to bad rubbish. tea partier.”

    this idiot becomes a martyr; even considering the mendacity of feminist movement, Thomas Ball is still a much better man.

  2. It’s a losing proposition trying to find the One Perfect Victim anyway. As this case proves, there are no ends to which these people will not go to try and smear their opponents. An alleged assault on his daughter a decade ago?

    Really? That justifies hounding this guy into an early grave?

    To state their case clearly is to debunk it. No doubt they think it’s a killer point to mention that Mr Critic once had a parking ticket, Mr Opponent once tripped over the kerb while drunk, and Mr Defiant is just plain fat, but the enormous mismatch between crime and punishment means only Certified Kool Aid drinkers will buy into what they say.

    Ditto, the other stupid point they come out with. Hey, everyone wants to be the conquering hero, but sometimes you’ve just got to do the best you can with a weak hand. Tom Ball was in a hopeless situation. Faced with life as a de facto slave and social eunuch, he chose a final act of defiance, as a testimony that the state could make him a slave, but they could never make him feel a slave. In another context, statues would be erected of him.

    • To state their case clearly is to debunk it. No doubt they think it’s a killer point to mention that Mr Critic once had a parking ticket, Mr Opponent once tripped over the kerb while drunk, and Mr Defiant is just plain fat, but the enormous mismatch between crime and punishment means only Certified Kool Aid drinkers will buy into what they say.

      And if they can’t find anything, they will just make something up. Even with Thomas Ball, anytime his name came up in the last several days on a feminist blog, there were always several feminists claiming he abused his wife (when he was alive and married). They will say whatever lie they like so we will never find that “one perfect victim” as you put it. We have to use what we got, and there is no reason to ignore Amanda Marcotte’s insanity that male suicide is abuse of women.

  3. “The Wisdom of Donald Rumsfeld”?? I kept waiting for the punchline. And waiting… and waiting…

    Perhaps you haven’t heard, but Rumsfeld is a murderer and a war criminal. Quoting him as if he were a fount of wisdom will only bring discredit on the Men’s Rights movement.

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