May 132011
 

Warren wrote a comment where he showed that he has no understanding of history, engineering, or science but I want to focus on a different part of this comment.  (Note: I added the bold to emphasize what I want to talk about):

Well here is the thing, the MRAs do have legitimate concerns, a helluva lot more than the feminazis. But, the government put the MRA there just like they did the feminists, to create a gender war….. Most MRAs think this is the first time this stuff has happened or something, but this matrix goes all the way back to ancient Egypt and Babylon… And probably then some. It can all be documented, the history and the secret societies and what not, even Plato wrote about “the mysteries” and how only the “elites” could be initiated, and how the higher mystery schools were taught in India, and the lesser mysteries in Greece. And Plato was like the Bush or Clinton or Obama of his days (back in ancient Greece).

No creature is more studied than human beings, that is no lie. They have entire fields of psychology and sciences devoted to this (behaviorism). They knew when they set up “women’s lib” that it would create a bunch of angry and displaced men, but TPTB always play both sides. They simply send in puppets to both sides to infiltrate and when their puppets rise to positions of authority within their respective movements, then the matrix has total control…. They control both sides.. This is why all the wars are bullshit, think about the fact that we have an international arms industry for a moment.

If the government/elite/NWO/Illuminati/Global Association Of People Who Pick Their Noses created and is in control of the MRM, then who here is working for them?  Traditionally, the answer to that question by conspiracy theorists who have said this is me.  But think about this seriously for a minute.  Who in the MRM could possibly be a government agent?  Bill Price?  Paul Elam?  Glenn Sacks?  If you believe the government created the MRM and has people in the MRM then who are these people?  Let’s have some names.  Vague accusations of government control don’t cut it.  At least when I have seen this argument before, I was specifically named as a government/elite/NWO/Illuminati/GAOPWPTN agent.

If you need a good reason not to believe in conspiracy theories, this is it.  The MRM being a scheme by the elite is where conspiracy theory will end up in the next 20 years.  Do you really want another reason for circular firing squads to happen in the MRM?

  16 Responses to “Who Here Is A Government Agent?”

  1. I am not a government agent. But I have noticed some fishy stuff.

    • What kind of “fishy stuff”?

      • PMAFT wrote:
        What kind of “fishy stuff”?

        There’s always all kinds of “fishy stuff” floating around. This Warren character is of course a raving fruitcake who believes that conspiracy is a better explanation than incompetence for it.

        • This Warren character is of course a raving fruitcake who believes that conspiracy is a better explanation than incompetence for it.

          Of course he is but I was trying to draw him out into saying even more ludicrous things. I was also hoping that he would actually name some men he thinks are government agents. Instead he’s being a weasel about it. The words you see written in the manosphere were written by actual men, not some vague government agents. Every comment and post here was written by an actual man. To say that some of these men are “government agents” is absurd and underhanded. If he has a charge to make against a specific man or several specific men in the manosphere he should make it and stand behind it. The insane morons who have accused me of working for or running the Illuminati at least were willing to stand behind their insanity and be coherent enough to say that an actual person, me in this case, was Illuminati. Instead, Warren is being a weasel since he want to make vague charges in general but refuses to actually stand behind his ideas and accept the destination of where his ideas take him.

  2. Guys, it’s me. Email me your mailing addresses and I’ll send you my extra reptilian mind-control rays via UPS.

    But seriously, the only iffy stuff I’ve seen on boards are the persistent yahoos who call for violent revolution. That would be about the worst possible way imaginable to try to advance our views.

    • But seriously, the only iffy stuff I’ve seen on boards are the persistent yahoos who call for violent revolution. That would be about the worst possible way imaginable to try to advance our views.

      There are the calls for violent revolution and nutjobs like Peter Andrew Nolan/Globalman and MikeeUSA. I could see where those people could be government agents to discredit the MRM. For instance, if you look at what has happened to people who use that freeman on the land bullshit Nolan promotes, they are sitting in prison. Both of them are too insane really to be effective at discrediting the MRM. MikeeUSA’s comments always get deleted quickly and Nolan spends most of his time attacking us for not being “real men” because we disagree with him. Actual government agents looking to discredit the MRM would be smarter than that.

      However, that’s not the argument being presented. When some conspiracy theorist talks about government agents in the MRM 99% of the time it’s not about trying to discredit or destabilize the MRM. The argument that Warren and other conspiracy theorists are making is that these government agents are trying to build up the MRM. There’s an idea that some conspiracy theorists subscribe to where there’s a “fake NWO” that the “real NWO” created. The idea is that the people end up rebelling against the “fake NWO” but the rebellion is controlled by the “real NWO” so the “real NWO” becomes fully entrenched because everyone thinks the NWO has been defeated. Feminism is considered to be part of the “fake NWO” so the “real NWO” created and controls the MRM. The MRM grows and men start rebelling against feminism and eventually successfully do so but according to conspiracy theorists who believe in this the NWO “wins” because they were in control of the MRM in the first place. In reality the net result is effectively a defense of feminism which suits the David Icke crowd and related leftist conspiracy theorists just fine. It also suits the conservative conspiracy theorists since they’re obsessed with the idea that the NWO wants to stop people from forming families and having a billion children and MRM ideas like ghosting and MGTOW are in opposition to these things (at least until the problems with marriage get fixed).

      • I did know about David Icke’s Leftist Feminism. Actually, the entire New Age is a vector for feminism and goddess/Gaia worship. But I hadn’t heard about the fake vs. real NWO.

        One has to question the brainpower and/or the motives of conspiracy theorists who will talk all kinds of wild theories but portray gender supremacy as “good” or “neutral.”

        Guess its easier for them to point fingers at otherworldly beings than take women off pedestals.

  3. PMAFT wrote:
    It also suits the conservative conspiracy theorists since they’re obsessed with the idea that the NWO wants to stop people from forming families

    Those guys obviously neglected to get up in the morning and take a good, hard look in the mirror. Most conservatives now are just feminist enablers.
    Here’s a classic example. There are a few exceptions of course such as F. Roger Devlin.

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  5. “and what not, even Plato wrote about “the mysteries” and how only the “elites” could be initiated,”

    What a fucking retard.

    Guys, it’s no secret in the MRM that I’ve studied this shit. Both the atheists and the Christians in the manosphere have given me shit about it occasionally (which I don’t mind, but it illustrates my point that my studying of these texts is well known). This guy Warren doesn’t know his ass from his elbow when he’s talking about esotericism,but you already knew that.

    I’m not a government agent (just what a government agent would say,huh?) but I want to put the fears of anyone who thinks there is some kind of occult satanic conspiracy to rest. IF (that’s a big “if”) groups of people connected to the government don the trappings of esotericism in secret, they are no more occultists than American fraternity members are greek for naming themselves using greek letters. And when Plato refers to the “mysteries”, he’s most likely talking about bygone sex parties.

    There were two mystery schools in the ancient world, the Dionysian,which was related to death and resurrection-much the same as Christianity- and the Aphrodisian,which was basically sex parties sponsored by prostitutes in the name of religion.

    I seriously doubt there are any mystery schools dedicated to Dionysus any more as Christianity has superseded Hellenic Paganism, and if my representatives are getting it on with prostitutes in private, that’s their business,and frankly, I can’t fault them.

    This Satanic conspiracy shit is overblown,the only place these diabolic sabbats exist are in the diseased minds of closeted perverts who wish they were getting the kind of action the invent in their minds. A lesson learned in the Middle Ages at the cost of the lives of god knows how many cat ladies and schizophrenics hung,stoned,or burned at the stake.

  6. I already apologized to PMAFT for this. I do not believe that anybody is a government agent. If there are any government agents in these circles, it is because they are coherent with us, and not “spying” on us.

    “fishy” in the way of activism. I have people telling me to sign online petitions, others telling me that signing them can actually do harm if not enough signatures are “gotten” (and hence – do not sign them).

    And, “fishy” as in “let’s not worry about that” type of attitude towards other things like NOW.

  7. Ok, assuming TPTB objective is the total annihilation of women, a controlled movement(like how they controlled feminism to a degree) wouldn’t provide enough energy to accomplish their goals. Heck it wouldn’t even be enough emotional energy to even get the ball rolling.

    Not by a long shot.

    The only way they could produce that energy is by messing with men’s minds. One step forward, two steps backwards type progression of events.

    It would require three main ingredients all happening at the same time. Government/authority indifference to men/boy’s. Women blatantly flaunting and celebrating their rights in the face of men and boy’s suffering; and the truth about things must be accepted as a matter of common fact(facts about Domestic violence, paternity fraud, war on boy’s and how alimony/child support =slavery).

    What I mean by that is that the Gov and women acting indifferent and bigoted en mass even though they understand and accept the truth of the facts of men/boy’s suffering.
    So as to create in the impression of a vast majority(over 3/4ths) of men that there is no way out, and that it is to late to do anything(powder keg effect)

    That would create the necessary emotional energy.

    The main theme of the MRM, MGTOW; as well as my own personnel philosophy of moderate extreme apathy in action(apathy,number one killers of civilizations) would represent a HUGE monkey wrench if this is their intended goal.

    As MGTOW will eventually lead to a french revolution type response against TPTB by women en mass. And extreme apathy will result in the fall of TPTB by their foreign enemies(do you honestly think if the Chinese conquer North America or Europe they would put up with TPTB or feminist’s/traditionalist’s?).

    I would be very suspicious of those who follow a more traditional route and those that condemn MGTOW with one brush, but with another seem to facilitate bickering and disharmony within the movement. So as to keep the movement paralyzed.

    Of course I doubt this is the plan(but who really knows what is going on anymore?), but take my words for what they are worth and if you see it begin to happen put out the flame with either a larger flame or cold water.

    • P.S

      The only way to win a one sided war is to deny the battle.

    • The main theme of the MRM, MGTOW; as well as my own personnel philosophy of moderate extreme apathy in action(apathy,number one killers of civilizations) would represent a HUGE monkey wrench if this is their intended goal.

      As MGTOW will eventually lead to a french revolution type response against TPTB by women en mass. And extreme apathy will result in the fall of TPTB by their foreign enemies(do you honestly think if the Chinese conquer North America or Europe they would put up with TPTB or feminist’s/traditionalist’s?).

      The problem is that you’re trying to make sense of this. The people who believe in this demented theory would claim that the TPTB/NWO either has no foreign enemies and/or has created a fake NWO/TPTB so that the revolution takes out the fake NWO/TPTB leading the real NWO/TPTB to take over. It’s absolutely ludicrous.

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