I just want to point out something here. Hestia has avoided talking in sexually explicit terms, she has obeyed the tenets of her religion in regards to sexual prohibitions, yet not even once has she ever been guilty of bible thumping. She doesn’t feel the need to publicly discuss what her favorite sex position, like Kathy does, yet she’s demonized for linking to a dudes site that has a couple of porn pics up there. Okay one more thing let’s just look at Kathy’s contribution to the online men’s movement…..NADA! Now let’s look at Hestia’s contribution, It’s substantial and much appreciated by MEN (as opposed to women). Cecilia on the other hand has had multiple relationships, god knows how much premarital sex, yet her loyal gabble of Catholics (including Kathy) do absolutely nothing but preach, moralize and talk about fucking their wives/husbands. Notice the difference. All I’ve ever heard Cecilia speak about is we need patriarchy because men are pathetic and unattractive without it. I say arrange the logs and kindling around the stake gentlemen, there’s a few more witches to be burned. The more I look the more I’m convinced that women must be even more discriminated against in this so called “movement”. Just look at this ridiculous shit they come up with. I am no white knight but I cannot stand by and see some annoying sanctimonious, bible thumping ocker try and defame the ONLY decent woman the ENTIRE manosphere. She actually cares about men because their human beings and their suffering, the Catholics and Cecilia’s pulpit only care because men because they no longer get their cunts wet. God riddance to all the worthless hangers on.
Robbie has correctly described Cecilia and her conservative female supremacism. Just like a feminist Cecilia (who also goes by the name, Alte, occasionally) blames men for when women divorce because the men didn’t turn on their wives enough like she does on Oz Conservative:
I know that Christianity teaches that a woman should be respectful and obedient regardless of whether or not her husband is a chump. But even Christian wives struggle with this, because it goes against our instincts. A Christian man can make his wife’s life much easier if he doesn’t act like a chump. Why torture her unnecessarily?
The problem with this is that no Christian can make this argument. It goes against Christian doctrine. The Bible tells women to submit, period, not only if the husband is “not a chump”. Cecilia is trying to justify female behavior. How many of these “chumps” would be “chumps” if there were several swords of Damocles over their heads. Their wives can have them sent to prison within an hour by claiming that she is the victim of DV, or can take away all of a man’s assets and children through divorce, in some cases while claiming the husband sexually abused the kids, etc. What are these men supposed to reasonably do? Blaming them for being in a no win situation created by women is out of line. She’s never even talked about any of these issues since that would require her to stop blaming men for a few minutes.
Someone will say, “But Cecilia is pro-game”. That’s because she has found a way to turn it around and use game in an anti-male manner. If a woman becomes pro-game, there’s a 99.9% chance that she has an agenda for using game against men in some way. Cecilia does this by saying learn game or your wife will divorce you as if the array of anti-male government policies don’t exist. It’s the same thing we have seen from the so-cons of how they will increase shaming language against men exponentially instead of making marriage desirable for men.
I have said over and over again that the argument between feminists and so called anti-feminists was just how to best hold the whip over men, i.e. how to best extract money and resources from men. Cecilia has gone over to the right wing side of that argument, marriage, rather than the feminist side, government. What Cecilia is really afraid of is that women will have neither option. All of the government financial transfers from men to women (the welfare state) will fall apart but that doesn’t lead to men getting married. Men will remember how women acted and say, “why bother?” This is what Cecilia is trying to stop. Of course all she can go is add more shaming language which guarantees a future in which neither marriage not government will be a viable route for women to extract money and resources from men.