Haters: More Time Wasting

I shouldn’t waste more time on Susan Walsh.  I thought the whole thing should just die since I wasted too much time on her as is.  I have been things (and chicks) to do.  I just found out that J@bberw0cky who you may recognize posted this a couple of days ago to Susan Walsh’s blog:

Do we not understand hyprgamy here, and how marraige solved the issue that hypergamy creates, which is essentially 80% of females battling it out for 20% of the males?

You can continue to ban people whose masculine debate style offends your feminine sensibilities, and you can continue to make red herring arguements like, “What about the ugly girls?” But the fact of the matter is that most women want the same 20% or so of men, and have been princessized to the point of expecting them, and then become bitter, old, and infertile just in time for them to suddenly stumble upon the wisdom, “Hey, maybe I should settle.” But guess what. Its too late. All the Niceguys (a phenominon so true, it has a one word, instantly recognizable descriptor for it) have been burned, no longer want to play in your raindeer games, or became Alpha assholes themselves. Ignore the problem all you want. Women’s expectations are too high, priorities are out of wack, and until this is confronted, they shall continue to deal with the consequences of their actions.

Susan Walsh came up with this as a response.  It has several obvious “problems”:

In fact, though my comment was quickly deleted, I responded at PMAFT’s blog post about me by inviting him to shoot me an email any time he wants to return and participate in a civil debate.

Susan Walsh’s definition of a “civil debate” includes calling me a “wacko”. First, why should I believe such an offer?  It was obviously fake.  Second,  I violated one of my rules about not wasting my time by getting into extended arguments with people who never listen to you because that would mean giving up their [in this case female] privilege.  Instead of continuing to waste my time going back into the pig sty as Alkibiades put it, I was going to move on.  I’m not going to beg.  I’m not going to get into a hissy fit like Susan Walsh is doing.  I’m not going to try to circumvent the ban against me.  Even this post may be a waste of time, but I figured better to write it rather than not in case there’s a real problem related to this in the future.

When it comes to “civil debate”, let’s not forget the trolls who read Susan Walsh’s blog who came here and among other things accused me of hacking her blog’s comments.

Her comment was never deleted.  It was placed in the moderation queue, and I have decided to show it with appropriate rebuttal below.  I explained this in what I hoped to be my last post on the subject. When it comes to Susan Walsh and anyone who claims to be a reader of her blog who is either a troll or otherwise problematic, their comments will automatically go to the moderation queue.  From now on, there’s a 99.9% chance I will let the comment through no matter what it says about me.  Like I said before, if they want to hang themselves, I will happily provide enough rope.

And what is wrong with wanting to help guys like Steveo who are stuck in the morass of the problems of dealing with women in these outright female supremacist times?  Steveo and I have emailed back and forth a bit.  Clearly, I have done more for the guy in a couple of emails than everyone at Susan Walsh’s blog could do for him in weeks or months.  Why?  There are many reasons, but a big one is that I actually listened to what he was saying and understood it.  This was something that was very much lacking for men like Steveo as Susan Walsh’s blog.

I have only banned two people in over a year of blogging, and they both had the same problem.

Susan Walsh’s banning of Kathy disproves this.

And here is what you have been waiting for or not waiting for, Susan Walsh’s comment which you can see here has not been edited except with a link to this post at the beginning.  The parts that I’m responding to with their responses are below:

PMAFT, I banned you for one reason only: your unwillingness to have a calm and civil conversation.

When it comes to my willingness to have a calm and civil conversation, people can decide that for themselves.  I have enough of a history for anyone to decide for themselves.  However, as I documented above you are definitely incapable of a “civil conversation”.

Naturally, I wondered why you were reading my blog, and you said that it was to connect with guys like steveo. Well, I’m glad that steveo emailed you and I hope that you can help him. I never shamed him, nor did any readers. No one called him smelly or suggested that he dresses like a homeless person. Some men who lost their virginity late, one later than steveo, shared their personal stories of transformation in an effort to be supportive and encouraging.

Someone saying, “I was an XX year old virgin” doesn’t really help much especially if it gets used as a pejorative against someone.  Plus, someone who was a 22 year old virgin and lost it at that age, as old as for a virgin that may be, really doesn’t understand what a 30 year old (involuntary) virgin is going through.  ”Support” and “encouragement” without a foundation of something real to get results leads to nothing but platitudes which are useless.  If you explain/understand what’s going on with men as well as you claim, you and the rest of your commenters should know better.

And yes people on your blog were claiming he had problems bathing (being smelly) and dressing (dressing like a homeless person).  None of you knew Steveo well enough to even say he had problems in these areas, particularly since Steveo is obviously a functional adult man.  There is no reason things such as bathing or clothes should have ever been brought up.  First, it’s obviously based on stereotypes.  (A guy who was a 22 year old virgin can easily have and promote stereotypes about 30 year old virgins and claim they’re losers.)  Second, again, if you explain/understand what’s going on with men as well as you claim, you and the rest of your commenters should know better.

All I can say is that I have made a good faith effort to learn what men are up against

Effort on this subject may have been fine 30 years ago, but now we are too far along for effort without successful results in understanding to be meaningful.  ”Good feelings” don’t produce results.  Plus, having been around this part of the internet for several years, I have seen thousands of women say the same thing with most of them not interested in understanding but using it as a platform to feel superior to men or for their own self-aggrandizement.

I have learned a great deal, thanks to Obsidian, TFH, Ferdinand and others. I have managed, over time, to earn a degree of respect from these men, or so I believe.

Obsidian’s focus is pretty narrow which is fine, but his opinion of you is also limited.  TFH (The Fifth Horseman) is the guy who discovered how you were an affirmative action recipient at Wharton.  Ferdinand has described his relationship with you as “acrimonious”.  More importantly, some may think that you reading a book on game is a big deal.  It takes more than that for me.

I do have a son that I wish the best for.

My mom wishes the best for me too, but that didn’t stop her (or my dad) from failing to teach me the reality about women.  Their wishes were genuine, but wishes don’t produce results.

I know you think men have it much worse, but if you’ve really read and considered the comments left on my site by young women, I don’t see how you could be so unfeeling toward them.

Men have it much worse, period.  This is an example of the problem I’m talking about and why it’s clear you don’t understand what is happening to men now.  ”Hurt feelings” don’t compare to being thrown in jail thanks to the false rape industry, losing your job because of the sexual harassment industry, having your kids taken away from you, etc.  I’m sure these guys who fell victim to these things have “hurt feelings”, but that’s the least of their problems.  Nothing that is happening to women compares to any one of those things, much less all of them together.  This also makes it clear that while you link to TFH’s the Misandry Bubble, you really don’t understand what TFH is saying.

I would expect a homeless man to be pretty unfeeling about the fact that I’m not a millionaire yet.  He has bigger problems like finding a roof over his head.  Because I understand the difference between his problems and mine, I don’t think of him as being “unfeeling”/having the “wrong feelings” about me.

TFH has pointed out how most women don’t understand cause and effect, and this is an example.  If something I’m doing isn’t getting me what I want or worse causing me pain, I try something different.  Most women, in general, including those on your blog, are failing at this.  Not knowing what the right different action is doesn’t preclude trying something, anything different.  Even doing nothing is an option especially if doing something is causing you pain.  At the very least doing nothing will not cause more pain.  This falls into the category of basic facts of life that men are learning at four.

For those who you reading this, maybe you’re still asking why this is such a waste of time for me.  All throughout my life (because I understand cause and effect) if I am not getting something or not in the process of it, I understand and have changed my behavior or reevaluated the importance of what I wanted.  I am smart enough not to be a dog chasing my own tail.  That can’t be said for most women.  This is why dealing with Susan Walsh or most of her readers is a waste of time.  The Misandry Bubble will collapse.  Most of Susan Walsh’s (female) readers will never get what they want because they can’t get from where they are now to where they want to be.  Why am I so interested in helping guys like Steveo?  While I make no promises about results, I can at least provide real feedback that comes from understanding and guys like Steveo have the ability to do something with it.  Steveo didn’t want the BS that was being passed around at Susan Walsh’s blog.  Recognizing BS alone means he is more likely to get what he wants than anyone at Susan Walsh’s blog.  Steveo will do things instead of participating in a circle jerk about his and others feelings.  The coming collapse of the Misandry Bubble will mean for the women on Susan Walsh’s blog nothing but confusion.  They will have more “hurt feelings”, but won’t be able to figure out what is going on.  They (claim to) want relationships with men.  If a woman wants a relationship with a man, then she has to understand that the man is another person.  I don’t have godlike powers, so I have no ability to correct this failure.