Jul 242009
 

MarkyMark on his blog has a story from fuckedcompany.com about the hell one man is going through being married to a woman. You can follow the link to read all the details. The upshot is this man got married, and his life is a living hell now thanks to the behavior of his wife.

In reading the comments to this post on MM’s blog it’s amazing the lengths people will go even anti-feminist men will go to absolve women of their behavior. It’s a triangle as I mentioned in the title because there are 3 angles in which men are being blamed for the behavior of women:
  1. The female angle of the guy must have “done something” to piss his wife off. This is the point of view in the first comment on MM’s blog to this story by “Kimberly”. (She’s tries to backpedal on this later, but it’s still somehow the “man’s fault”.) It’s clear that the woman is responsible for her own behavior, but someone this guy had “done something” to piss his wife off despite the fact that if a man acted the same way he would be considered psychotic.
  2. The pseudo-alpha (I say pseudo-alpha since as I have pointed out most supposed alphas aren’t really alphas) angle said by “Keoni Galt” of that the guy needs to “man up”. (Yes, this is borderline shaming language.) In this case, it’s because the guy isn’t dominating his wife enough. Again, the wife is acting psychotic. Why should a man have to act a certain way just so his wife acts like a NORMAL HUMAN BEING? (Before anybody points out how this worked for Keoni Galt remember there was a 50/50 chance he would be sitting in jail now because his wife felt “threatened”. Think about that.) Beyond that I know that I like many other men like to relax occasionally, and you can never relax with this option because then it will fail.
  3. The male feminist angle which really isn’t represented in the comments is sort of hit on by the guy having the problem (offering to do the dishes and the like). The male feminist will claim that its the man’s fault because he didn’t understand what his wife was going through or some other nonsense. The male feminist will also claim things like how the man needs to wash the dishes to show that he isn’t part of the patriarchy oppressing her or some other crap. As we can see from the story that doesn’t work. (This also could be called the beta or herb angle.)
What all of these things have in common is that the man is blamed for his wife’s behavior which in original story is clearly psychotic. These three angles create a triangle that surround and trap the man. The man can try to solve this problem by assuming that one of the three angles is correct in defining the problem and trying to solve that problem. However, whatever angle the man picks it will not work. Even if he tries another side of the triangle it still won’t work.
On top of all this by picking one side of this triangle, the man is not picking the other two. Why is this important? Because they all can say that the man is still wrong even if he picks one of the supposed problems to solve. In other words, the man is running around and around while his wife is acting all psychotic. It allows all three sides of the triangle to blame him for his wife’s behavior almost forever since by definition according to two thirds of the triangle the man is always wrong.
What is the key to breaking out of this triangle? It’s going your own way, namely MGTOW. What happened was this man let himself get into a position where what was happening in his life was defined by insane people (i.e. his wife) and people who are trying to prop up women to their own benefit (women, pseudo-alphas, and male feminists/herbs). The entire point of this triangle is to trap a man. If all a man sees are the sides of a triangle, he can’t escape from it. The MGTOW concept gives men a way out of this trap.
A MGHOW will still get blamed by women, pseudo-alphas, and male feminists because its in their interest to do so. However, a MGHOW will not be trapped in the hell that the guy from the original story is in. A MGHOW is able to live his life the way he wants.

  16 Responses to “The triangle of blaming men for what women do”

  1. Indeed about not being able to relax… I believe the phrase is "Sword of Damocles", I'd post the story of it, but I feel you may already know, or I'll miss a key thing about the story.

    ANYway, about never being able to relax, it reminds me of a lecture I attended on stress management.

    The Speaker had a glass of water on the table, he picked it up and told the room how easy it was to do. However, he noted that after extending his arm (with glass in hand) for 10 minutes, it would become unbearable, and if he had done so for 2 hours, he would need to go to the hospital.

    Point being, even easy to do things can tear you down if you never get a break from them, and having to put up this fascade all day everyday, or fear being destroyed financially/criminally all day everyday takes too big a toll on anyone.

  2. I couldn't bear to read past the first comment from Kimberly in that comment thread. The "always blame men" idea is flawed logic I cannot wrap my mind around. If I make the CHOICE to act like a psychotic jerk, how on earth is that my husband's fault? The responsibility is mine alone. To imply otherwise is madness!

    Regardless of what may or may not have happened in any given situation, a woman is responsible for her behavior. Period. A woman's husband didn't "make" her do it. Feminism didn't "drive" her to commit some evil. Social engineering and/or the NWO didn't, nor can a woman be absolved for her behavior because it's "biology" that made her cheat or her husband being a "beta" or whatever other garbage people can come up with. Why oh why is is so very difficult for people to hold women accountable for their bad, outrageous, and/or immoral behavior?

  3. The dude in that post is screwed. If he does anything to make her more angry than she already is, it's instant wage-slave serfdom for him. And the courts will thank her for her business.

    Mrs. Amy brings up a great point. I winced at Kimberly's initial comments too. We are always asked to "understand" a woman's pain. What if I don't give a damn about her pain and just want her to grow up and be a woman and not a little child?

  4. I understand why you think the best way to live in this world is MGHOW, but I am curious about how you picture a perfect world. How would women behave? What would be the roles of men and women? Would government intervene in or regulate what women are allowed to do? I would love to see a post from you regarding this.

  5. A woman is responsible for her behaviour. So is a man!
    Best not be so judgemental and biased Mrs Amy, until you have heard two sides to the story.
    If you cannot bear to read Kimberly's "OPINION" then don't. Women do not choose to be psychotic jerks. Who (male or female) would? One day when you grow up a little.. you will understand.

    PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE.

    "Why oh why is is so very difficult for people to hold women accountable for their bad, outrageous, and/or immoral behavior?"

    The reverse( for men) is also true.

    It is not a male versus female.. world.

    That is not what God intended.

    Men and women alike are accountable for their sins are they not?

    A litle bit of balance and perspective please!

  6. Anonymous- I would agree and did not intend for my comment to imply otherwise. Everybody is responsible for their own behavior, ideally both before God and before the law of the land. This would be "equality" in the true sense of the word, IMHO, and to do otherwise is dehumanizing, for to be fully human one has to have three free will to choose right or wrong and be held accountable for what their choices and actions reap. It was precisely for this reason why I am so disturbed when anybody is blamed for behaviors, reactions, and the choices of others which they cannot control. As the topic of this post was the behavior of women, this was the reason I used the examples I did.

    There have been numerous times I have made mistakes or had "bad" opinions that my husband has been blamed for, which is outrageous as these were my mistakes & thoughts to own alone and had nothing to do with wrongdoing on his part. I've also had numerous experiences with older women attempting to tell me I did x or y because of something my husband had done to me, encouraging me to blame my husband rather than take responsibility for my own behavior and seeking to identify the real issue and do better next time. If I am stressed out and lose my temper as a result, is this not my fault, not my husband's, daughter's, or anybody else's? Despite the ample blame that is always at the ready to be handed to my husband, I have yet to have the experience of being blamed for something my husband has done, nor have I ever been accused of harming him or other such absurdities which have happened to my husband. Funny how that works.

  7. Brilliant, Mrs. Amy:

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you were somewhat insulted by anonymous, particularly the line "when you grow up a little, you will understand". You did not fire back in kind, and stuck to your true firepower, your reasoning.

    I have seen so little of this, usually because where I visit, peace relatively prevails, but when insults are slung, the insultee is determined to play the same game.

    Fairly magnificent, I think we should all look to your example in civil discourse of our topics.

  8. ..Fairly magnificent, I think we should all look to your example in civil discourse of our topics.

    Brillaint strategy.. I agree. Amateur strategist.

    Of course the fact that Mrs Amy is only (correct me if I am wrong) 24.. means that she has had a lifetime of experience.??. Hey that's pretty close to Obama's age now, isn't it.

    Seriously… Mrs Amy is a good and extremely intelligent Christian woman, no doubt about it.
    What she does not have is experience in dealing with men and women..
    It will come….

  9. Amateur Strategist- Thank you for your kind words. The importance of swallowing my emotional pride to best apply rational and reasonable thinking to conflicts, life choices, and discussion of important topics (such as men's rights, justice, and gender relations)is one of those important lessons my meager life experience and my wise parents have taught me very well.

  10. Amy@clothesline alley:

    Where exactly did I blame this man in my statement below?? You wont find it because I didn't. Don't twist my words. If you couldn't bear to read past it, it was based of YOUR own false ideas of what I was saying. I said, "there has to be a reason why", never did I say it was because of him! But you saw it that way because YOU WANTED TO!! Guess what…that's probably the same behavior his wife started out with…It was all the way SHE SAW IT!

    "While I completely empathize with this man, and I most certainly do! I have to ask myself, "what exactly is making this man's wife act this way?" "Why is she so angry?" She resents him…and there has to be a reason why. Most of you will say cuz she's a bitch, but that's only the tip of the iceburg. From a woman's perspective I can tell you exactly what's going on with his wife and exactly why she is so angry. But that's if you're willing to listen. Which I doubt, but surprise me."

    At no time did I condoned his wifes behavior, nor did I back pedal. My first statement was very generalized. And all I said is that there is a backstory to it, one that we don't know. This man describes one situation. But obvioulsy he has been with his wife for many years. What brought them to that abusive setting? We have to ask ourselves that because we don't know for sure, non of us in cyberspace know. But putting the blame on one person will never allow us to get the the bottom of this phenomenon, this destruction of marriage, family and civiliaztion.

    Thank you ANON at 8:30am!! Exactly! Blame is on BOTH OF THEM!

    Kimberly

  11. @ Elusive Wapiti

    If you winced, it was because of your imagination. I kept that initial post generalized for a reason. I asked two questions, "what exactly is making this man's wife act this way?" "Why is she so angry?"
    And because I didn't answer, YOU filled in the answers on YOUR own. How did you know what I was thinking? YOU DIDN'T. And you've basically put words in my mouth based on your biases.

    It is astounding that there are so many psychics on thess blog that know exactly what is going on in this man's relationship.

    It's also amazing how feminist think all women are always innocent and are victims….it's also amazing how the MGTOW thinks all men are always innocent and victims…..both movements are beginning to sound alot alike.

    Kimberly

  12. Where exactly did I blame this man in my statement below??

    That's obviously what you meant when you said, "Blame is on BOTH OF THEM!"

    We men have heard mealy mouthed women say all of the exact same thing any time a woman does something psychotic like this. Face it. Men are on to this.

    This is the same crap that Henry Louis Gates tried to pull because he's black. We don't buy it from him either.

    Guess what…that's probably the same behavior his wife started out with…It was all the way SHE SAW IT!

    If that's really the case, then why should we men care? We are tired of letting psychotic people (and this woman is psychotic) define how we live. That is the power of MGTOW. Men no longer have to cow tow to psychotic women.

    And because I didn't answer, YOU filled in the answers on YOUR own. How did you know what I was thinking? YOU DIDN'T. And you've basically put words in my mouth based on your biases.

    That's your fault for playing games. If you want to be taken seriously, then act and speak like a serious person.

    For anybody that cares I always assume that men are innocent victims because 99.99% of the time I end up being right. It's a lesson learned from experience.

  13. " It's also amazing how feminist think all women are always innocent and are victims….it's also amazing how the MGTOW thinks all men are always innocent and victims…..both movements are beginning to sound alot alike."

    You make a very good point Kim, that is well illustrated in the comment below

    "For anybody that cares I always assume that men are innocent victims because 99.99% of the time I end up being right."

    Where is the evidence pmaft? Assumptions do not make it so.

    You are no different to the feminists who also assume that all men are rapists.

    A little less spin and hyperbole, would be appreciated.

  14. Anonymous, watch the video here. The MRM and MGTOW movements don't need to justify themselves to you. The fact that they exist mean they are needed and that there are real problems caused by feminists and other women.

    As the video explains feminists try and correct "ideas", in other words the way that people think. This is totalitarianism. The MRM and MGTOW movements point to SPECIFIC and CONCRETE social injustices such as men getting financially raped in divorce courts, men having their kids taken away, false rape charges, false sexual harassment charges, etc.

    The reason why I can assume that men are innocent 99.9% of the time is that women through feminism have a big government juggernaut at their disposal to use against men. This by definition means that men will be innocent victims nearly all of the time. Given the libertarian nature of the MRM and MGTOW movements they would never create such a big government juggernaut to use against women.

  15. Everyone,

    I should have said that I dont just blame men, I blame women too….instead of not blaming men at all. I regret the error.

    All of you have joked and tip toed around the idea that she is displaying psychotic behavior. Did you ever think that maybe she IS mentally ill? It's quite possible that she may be depressed. Let me ask you, if he sees this mental illness in his wife, why is he posting this story online and not looking up a mental health clinic instead???? I cannot approve of his behavior. He does not get a pass because he is a man and stuck in a "terrible" situation, and neither does she as far as I'm concerned. I suffered from depression and have experience a similar situation. I would go off at anything. I saw my behavior and recognized that I needed to correct it and I did. It is possible for her to do the same as long as the mental illness isn't too extreme. Luckily for her she has a husband who could recognize this for her, I didn't have a spouse to help me out, so it went on for some years.

    This is the same story as a man who physically beats his spouse…

    Do you know who I blame for that? The man for hitting her and her for possible provoking him or being a glutton for punishment and allowing a man to abuse her. I have been in the same situation, and I can tell you my ex only hit me once and I was G-O-N-E. Take Rhianna and Chris brown…as far as I'm concerned both of them are abusers. Chris should have pressed charges on her for hitting him first. Honestly…

    But those are my thoughts and I'm sure I'll be ripped apart for them but I really don't care. Someone needs to say this. Please understand that I recognize the situation in which men are in today. I have not turned a blind eye to it, and I'm completely empathetic. But how much farther are you going to get with this one act show?

    Kimberly

  16. We are tired of letting psychotic people (and this woman is psychotic) define how we live. That is the power of MGTOW. Men no longer have to cow tow to psychotic women.

    As the video explains feminists try and correct "ideas", in other words the way that people think. This is totalitarianism.

    *applause* "Going your own way" is precisely what people need to do, man or woman, when it comes to the bullying tactics of others and the thought police & PC tyranny of other individuals and groups. Having had certain frightening experiences, thanks to an evil woman & her "feelings" in the recent past, this has been a lesson I have learned very well, in a very difficult way, but is something I'm thankful to have learned already at my age. One can choose to be a victim of these hateful tactics or they end the conversation & "go their own way" in life.

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